
 The Sustainability Agenda Episode 167: Interview with Professor Daniela Gabor on funding the transition to a low carbon economy, first aired June 2021
 Dec 29, 2022 
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 Introduction 
 00:00 • 3min 
 How to Achieve the Net Zero Transition by 2050 
 02:58 • 2min 
 The Pros and Cons of Private Finance 
 05:02 • 4min 
 The De-Risking Paradigm in the World Bank 
 09:09 • 4min 
 The Fiscal Costs of De-Risking 
 13:26 • 2min 
 The Politics of Taxonomies 
 15:27 • 4min 
 The Wall Street Consensus: A New Paradigm for Private Finance 
 19:45 • 5min 
 The State's Role in Commodification of Public Goods 
 24:15 • 3min 
 The Importance of Fiscal Action in the Global North 
 27:40 • 4min 
 The Political Momentum Behind the COVID-19 Pandemic 
 31:18 • 4min 
 The Importance of Disclosure in the Face of Climate Change 
 35:46 • 5min 
 The Politics of Green Monetary Policy 
 40:21 • 2min 
 Do We Need a New Multilateral Climate Finance Infrastructure? 
 41:52 • 3min 
 The Political Feasibility of Credits for Climate Change 
 45:14 • 2min 
 How to Maximize Profits From Green Investments 
 47:38 • 2min 
 The Changing Wisdom of the M&T Community 
 49:38 • 3min 
 The Price of Nature 
 53:02 • 3min 
 The Future of Carbon Markets 
 56:20 • 3min 
 The Problem With Subsidizing Dirty Finance 
 59:09 • 5min 
