On this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, interviews Robert Ingalls, founder of LawPods, a company specializing in podcast production for law firms. The two connect through mutual acquaintance Michael Michalowicz, author of Profit First.

Robert shares his journey from unhappy criminal defense attorney to successful legal tech entrepreneur. At 35, feeling trapped in his law practice and concerned about starting a family, Robert had a breakthrough after listening to a Tom Bilyeu podcast on mindset and identity. He began podcasting as a hobby, purchased equipment, and eventually found his first client when a lawyer asked for help with podcast production.

Throughout the conversation, Robert discusses his entrepreneurial philosophy of "becoming" - the process of transforming himself into someone who can overcome any challenge through relentless self-improvement. He reveals how he wrote himself a million-dollar check (inspired by Jim Carrey) as motivation, and describes his voracious approach to learning through books, podcasts, and courses.

The interview explores Robert's growth journey, including his work with Michael Michalowicz's coaching program, his recent decision to hire a personal assistant, and his ongoing struggle to overcome a scarcity mindset from his childhood. He shares insights about improving his offer structure based on Alex Hormozi's book "100 Million Dollar Offers" and his approach to pricing based on value rather than market rates.

Robert also opens up about his interest in Stoicism, his practice of recording video messages for his family in case something happens to him, and his realization that despite enjoying certain aspects of law, he was always destined for a creative career path. The conversation concludes with Robert explaining that his current focus is developing scalable processes to grow his business while maintaining quality.