Life is painful. Period. But are there some aspects of our faith or our posture toward the world that can change how we experience it?

Father Richard Rohr is everyone’s favorite preacher of love. Love for each other. Love from God.

In this conversation, Kate and Richard talk about:

Together, might we all learn when to hold on and when to let go.

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Richard Rohr: Learning to Hold On, Learning to Let Go