Best of the Spectator Coffee House Shots: were we right to lock down? Michael Gove vs Toby Young
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Mar 22, 2025 
Michael Gove, former cabinet minister and current editor of The Spectator, joins Toby Young, a vocal lockdown critic, to discuss the UK's COVID-19 lockdown measures. They debate whether the lockdown was justifiable or a breach of civil liberties, exploring the ethical dilemmas involved. The conversation also dives into Sweden's no-lockdown approach and its outcomes. With humor, they touch on the quirky debate about Scotch eggs as substantial meals, highlighting the absurdities of pandemic regulations.
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Initial COVID-19 Fears
- The UK government faced a terrifying period due to the uncertainties surrounding the COVID-19 virus.
- They knew it spread rapidly in Europe, putting a strain on health services.
Lockdown U-Turn
- The UK's lockdown on March 23rd, 2020, felt like a U-turn, abandoning the pandemic preparedness strategy.
- This strategy advised against quarantining healthy individuals, a tactic Sweden followed with fewer excess deaths.
Rationale for Restrictions
- Despite the declining infection rate on March 23rd, restrictions on social mixing were deemed necessary.
- This was due to the virus's lethality, especially for vulnerable populations.