The Fifth Column

Members Only #280 - Megyn Kelly Blowback, Principled Sanity, and Nihilistic Dread

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Oct 11, 2025
Hot takes on Hollywood shakeups spark lively debates among the hosts. They delve into the complexities of separating art from artists, discussing figures like John Cusack and Susan Sarandon. Anecdotes about Ben Dreyfuss and reflections on the MeToo movement add an intriguing layer to their conversation. Plus, listener feedback on a controversial Megyn Kelly interview ignites discussion about interview styles and combativeness. A nostalgic revisit to 'Stand By Me' questions how a director’s politics influence their classics.
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ANECDOTE

Interruptions And Solo Movie Nights

  • Kmele described the chaos of adults who can't stop talking while a host tries to start a commercial break.
  • He also recounted going alone to a three-hour Paul Thomas Anderson movie and how rare solo time felt as a parent.
INSIGHT

Spoilers Don't Kill Quality Films

  • Kmele argued that spoilers don't ruin a great movie; good filmmaking still rewards viewers who know the outcome.
  • He defended Paul Thomas Anderson's film as absurdist and not simply left-wing propaganda.
ANECDOTE

When Artists' Behavior Matters

  • Matt said he can't separate John Cusack's politics and behavior from liking him as a person, calling Cusack an "illiterate asshole."
  • He contrasted that with being able to enjoy Susan Sarandon's or Sean Penn's work despite disagreeing with their politics.
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