The Case Against Consumer Change (with Natalie Fulton) (Ep. 25)

Should vegans stop calling ourselves vegan? Natalie Fulton makes the case in this conversation.

Natalie is a YouTuber and the social media lead for Pro-Animal Future, which focuses on using systemic change to end the exploitation of animals.

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Follow Pro-Animal Future:

Website: https://ProAnimalFuture.org

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/proanimalfuture/ Slaughter-

Free September 2024 Interest form:

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Follow Natalie:

YouTube: www.youtube.com/@Natalie.Fulton

Patreon: patreon.com/nataliefulton

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nataliefu26

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nattiefulton/

Threads: https://www.threads.net/@nattiefulton

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nattiefulton

Substack: https://nataliefulton.substack.com/

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Chapters:

Chapter 1) 00:00-29:08 Intro, working with Pro-Animal Future, ballot initiatives in Colorado, individual change vs. systemic change, Vegan Gains, Natalie’s debate strategy, & the history of change

Chapter 2) 29:09-59:35 What is the winning narrative for animal rights, Natalie’s controversial take on the word “Vegan,” identity, documentaries, & animal rights as a political issue

Chapter 3) 59:35-1:13:36 The goal of animal rights, influencers affected by their audience, ordinary people affected by their social circles, & the lies of animal agriculture industry

Chapter 4) 1:13:37-1:34:42 We stronger with more activists, meditation, & everyone can contribute to the animal rights movement

Chapter 5) 1:34:43-1:37:36 Final thoughts: More on the ballot initiative in Colorado, Slaughter-Free September (link above), & follow Pro-Animal Future (links above)

Chapter 6) 1:37:37-1:37:53 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, Chloe Leffakis, & Jeremy Loeb