20VC: From Selling 75% of Trade Republic for €600K to Raising $1.3BN at a $5.3BN Valuation, The Biggest Fundraising Lessons Having Raised $1.3BN From the Best in the World; Trade Republic CEO, Christian Hecker and Creandum General Partner Johan Brenner
Feb 16, 2024
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Christian Hecker, CEO of Trade Republic, and Johan Brenner from Creandum discuss topics such as selling a majority stake in Trade Republic, fundraising lessons from top investors, board management strategies, missed opportunities, hiring practices, and Trade Republic's potential as a leading financial partner in Europe by 2034.
Finding individuals aligned with the company's mission is crucial for a successful venture capitalist-founder relationship.
Trade Republic shifted their marketing focus from performance marketing to channels like affiliate marketing, influencers, and brand marketing.
Influencer marketing became one of Trade Republic's most valuable marketing channels.
Deep dives
Building Trust in the Venture Capital Industry
One of the main challenges in the trade republic journey was hiring the first person. It was difficult to find someone who believed in the vision and was willing to join the team with limited funding. However, this hire was crucial as they became an ambassador for the company. In hindsight, the team realized that it is all about the founders and finding individuals who are aligned with the company's mission. Building trust with founders is essential for a successful venture capitalist-founder relationship.
Rethinking Performance Marketing
In the past 12 months, Trade Republic changed its perception of performance marketing. After spending significant amounts on platforms like Facebook and Google, they recognized that investing in growth through performance marketing might not be as effective as originally thought. They shifted their focus to other marketing channels, such as affiliate marketing, influencers, ambassadors, and brand marketing. This change in approach led to similar customer acquisition numbers while optimizing unit economics.
The Power of Influencer Marketing
Trade Republic initially underestimated the effectiveness of influencer marketing. They viewed it as an expensive strategy and questioned its value. However, they later realized that influencers and ambassadors play a significant role in driving authenticity and connecting with the audience. As Trade Republic is a product that relies on users experiencing it and sharing their positive experiences with others, influencer marketing became one of their most valuable marketing channels.
Trade Republic's Value Proposition: A Bank Account for Wealth Creation
Trade Republic aims to offer a valuable proposition to individuals by providing the first bank account for wealth creation. The company's viral product, a savings plan, encourages people to deposit money regularly, which they rarely quit. This approach is similar to a fitness club subscription, where the guilt of quitting keeps customers committed. Despite the plan being completely free and cancelable anytime, Trade Republic has found that people still hesitate to start. This unique value proposition drives the company's business and revenue per user today.
Lessons from Raising $1.3 Billion: Building Relationships and Expanding Vision
Trade Republic's experience in raising $1.3 billion from top investors highlighted the two sides of venture capitalism. Initially facing rejection, the company eventually had the luxury of choosing investors to work with. They built relationships over a year or two, promising and delivering value before receiving investments. The process involved extensive conversations and spending time to establish trust. With each funding round, their vision expanded, adding new dimensions to their product and market focus. They also learned to work with multiple investors to avoid dependency and optimize their funding rounds for the long-term journey.
Christian Hecker is the Founder and CEO of Trade Republic, the company making it easy and inexpensive for everyone with a smartphone to invest. To date, Christian has raised over $1.3BN for the company from the likes of Sequoia, Founders Fund, Accel and Creandum to name a few. Previously, Christian worked in Bank of America Merrill Lynch’s Investment Banking department.
Johan Brenner is a General Partner at Creandum. Johan has led Creandum’s investments in iZettle (acquired by PayPal for $2.2bn in 2018), Trade Republic, Klarna, Pleo, Neo4J, Vivino and more. Johan was previously a repeat entrepreneur, founding one of the first online brokers in Europe in 1997 (sold to E*TRADE in the US), then JobLine (sold to Monster), Bookatable (Michelin) and Tradera (Ebay).
In Today's Episode with Christian Hecker and Johan Brenner We Discuss:
1. Selling 75% of Trade Republic for €600,000:
How did Christian come to sell 75% of Trade Republic for €600K?
How did Johan and Creandum solve this challenge when they invested?
What are some of Christian's biggest pieces of advice on cap table construction?
2. Raising $1.3BN From the Best Investors in the World:
What are Christian's biggest fundraising lessons from raising $1.3BN from the best in the world?
How did Doug Leone and Sequoia come to lead Trade Republic's round? What was the meeting with Doug like? What questions did he ask? How did it go?
How important of a skill does Johan believe being a great fundraiser is for founders?
3. Scaling into Europe's Next Decacorn:
What are the single biggest issues that arise when scaling so fast? What breaks first?
Does CAC increase with time or decrease?
Why did Christian decide to stop paid marketing on Google and Facebook and stop spending $100M+ there overnight?
Why is Christian so bullish on influencer marketing? What works? What does not work?
4. Europe: A Hub for Innovation or a Retirement Home:
Does Christian believe that young people in Europe work hard enough?
What are the biggest challenges to scaling teams in Europe?
Why does Johan believe the biggest challenge in Europe is the lack of exit markets?
What can Europe do to improve and increase our chances of being successful?
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