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471. Mayor Pete and Elaine Chao Hit the Road

Aug 5, 2021
Pete Buttigieg, the U.S. Secretary of Transportation and former mayor of South Bend, Indiana, joins economist Ed Glazer to discuss America's infrastructure woes. They explore the deep-seated cultural ties between Americans and their cars while addressing why the U.S. lags behind in building modern infrastructure. The conversation dives into the challenges of federal funding, the complexities of urban planning, and innovative solutions like Biden's infrastructure plan. They highlight the urgent need for a cultural shift to enhance safety, accessibility, and sustainability in transportation.
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INSIGHT

American Individualism and Cars

  • Americans love their cars because they value individualism and freedom.
  • Cars offer control and open roads, symbolizing boundless possibility.
ANECDOTE

Buttigieg's Transportation Passion

  • Pete Buttigieg, the U.S. Secretary of Transportation, is a self-proclaimed transportation nerd.
  • He views his role as overseeing planes, trains, and automobiles.
INSIGHT

Defining Infrastructure

  • Infrastructure projects involve significant upfront costs and future use value.
  • Examples include electricity grids, highways, trains, and broadband, but not home healthcare.
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