The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast CNLP 734 | Is Your Church Overstaffed? Amy Anderson on The Pivotal Differences Between Growing and Declining Churches, and The Legacy of Tony Morgan
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Jun 10, 2025 
In this insightful discussion, Amy Anderson, Principal Leader at The Unstuck Group, dives into whether churches might be overstaffed and why that often hampers growth. She contrasts the dynamics of thriving versus declining churches, emphasizing the importance of adaptability in leadership transitions after losing a key figure. The conversation also covers effective staffing metrics and how to ensure organizational health, alongside nurturing future leaders from within the congregation. Prepare for thought-provoking insights on church management and growth strategies!
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Shock of Tony Morgan's Passing
- Tony Morgan's sudden death was a shock with no forewarning, even though he was healthy and active.
- The remote nature of the team made grieving and processing his loss even harder for them.
Team Grieves Tony Together
- The Unstuck team gathered at an Airbnb for Tony's funeral to grieve and remember him together.
- Being remote had delayed their grief process, so this in-person time was crucial.
Three Reasons You're Overstaffed
- Overstaffing often happens due to too many ministries, lack of volunteers, or both simultaneously.
- Leaders should assess staff-to-attendance ratios and volunteer engagement to avoid unnecessary hires.