Mu Bernardo Kastrup and Shinzen Young on Mysticism and Science
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Dec 14, 2023 
Shinzen Young and Bernardo Kastrup explore mysticism, science, and liberation. They discuss the alignment of philosophy, science, and mystical experience, the paradox of cultivated improvement, Spinoza's mystical experiences, and the relationship between mystical traditions and science. They also delve into the method and purpose of science, profound insights, and the value of paying attention to life.
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Keep Tools Separate And Complementary
- Bernardo argues science, philosophy, and mysticism are complementary tools, not to be fused into one.
- Wisdom is knowing which tool to use when rather than forcing a unification of methods.
Freedom Through Service To Nature
- Bernardo describes liberation as accepting life isn't about the personal self but serving nature's transpersonal flow.
- That acceptance brings a paradoxical freedom even amid ongoing suffering.
Suffering, Attention, And Insight
- Bernardo says his insight did not come from psychedelics or academic philosophy but from paying attention while suffering.
- He emphasizes disposition to attend to suffering as the crucible of his realization.