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The Dark Sign of the Gods: Antigone by Sophocles Part II

May 20, 2025
David Niles, co-host of the Catholic Man Show, and Dr. Frank Grabowski, a philosophy professor and Franciscan, dive deep into Sophocles' Antigone. They discuss Haemon's powerful challenge to his father Creon's stubbornness and the broader implications of authority versus morality. The conversation explores Antigone's inner turmoil and the tragic dynamics at play, while humorous anecdotes about farm life add levity. They also reflect on the themes of love, justice, and the dire consequences of ignoring divine signs.
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Haemon as a Voice of Reason

  • Haemon contrasts with Creon's irrationality by employing patient, masterful rhetoric that balances filial piety with Socratic challenge.
  • He raises human fallibility and the voice of the people as reasons for Creon to reconsider his harsh decree against Antigone.
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Creon’s Shift Towards Tyranny

  • Creon shifts from a concern for the common good to tyranny, focusing solely on his authority.
  • He calls anarchy the worst crime, yet this overlooks a higher law that even gods obey.
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Diverging Arcs of Antigone and Creon

  • Antigone grows doubtful and introspective, while Creon's arrogance and conceit intensify.
  • This contrast deepens the tragedy, showing their respective falls in character strength.
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