The Digital Agency Growth Podcast

Why Most Agency Sales Plans Fail (and What to Do Instead)

Aug 13, 2025
Dan Englander, CEO of Sales Schema, specializes in helping marketing agency owners build their firms. He discusses the challenges agencies face in sales, emphasizing the dangers of relying solely on hope and referrals. Englander explains the importance of developing structured sales systems and the need to convert networks into reliable pipelines. He also highlights the significance of trust in today's sales dynamics and provides insights on mastering inbound and outbound marketing strategies effectively. His approach promotes genuine relationships over cold outreach for sustainable growth.
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ANECDOTE

From Account Manager To Sales Schema Founder

  • Dan began in agency account management, commuting long distances and juggling client work with prospecting.
  • He later founded Sales Schema and shifted from doing lead gen to training agencies to own revenue generation.
INSIGHT

Inconsistency Is The Core Agency Pain

  • Agencies suffer from inconsistent, reactive revenue systems that rely on hope and referrals.
  • Dan Englander says repeatability in sales is the core pain most agencies bring to him.
ADVICE

Choose Tactics That Fit Your Resources

  • Start with the sales approach that fits your current resources rather than copying SaaS playbooks.
  • Target prospects who share real commonalities with you to leverage existing trust and get easier conversations.
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