The Reason Interview With Nick Gillespie John McWhorter: Is 'Wokeness' Finally Dead?
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Feb 26, 2025 
In this engaging conversation, John McWhorter, a Columbia University linguist and New York Times columnist known for his works on race and culture, explores the evolving landscape of wokeness and its impact on society. He argues for the decline of politically correct practices and the shifting dynamics in academia and the arts. McWhorter shares insights from his forthcoming book, 'Pronoun Trouble,' and discusses the complexities of identity politics, the emotional toll of affirmative action, and the importance of cultural mixing in today's discourse.
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Wokeness Recession
- The peak wokeness of 2020-21 has subsided, though a punitive element likely remains.
- This period's intensity stemmed from George Floyd's murder, lockdowns, and Zoom culture.
Shifting Reactions
- McWhorter contrasts two incidents: one where a psychiatry head's career was ruined over a comment, another where a chancellor's insensitive imitation was tolerated.
- This difference illustrates the shift away from peak wokeness.
DEI and Affirmative Action
- DEI programs, while intended to address injustice, have become institutionalized anti-whiteness.
- McWhorter agrees with Bill Clinton's stance on affirmative action: "mend it, don't end it."
