Pete Shalek, founder of Valerie Health, is a multi-time healthcare entrepreneur who previously founded Joyable in 2013 (one of the earliest digital mental health platforms) and served as Chief Product Officer at AbleTo and Stellar Health. Pete discusses why AI in healthcare needs to move beyond selling software tools to actually doing the work for providers. He shares hard-won lessons from a decade in digital health, including why the shift to quality-based care in behavioral health has been surprisingly slow and why Joyable's therapist-free model was ahead of its time relative to payment models. The conversation covers Valerie's approach of building an AI front office that handles referrals, scheduling, and intake for independent medical practices without requiring them to learn new software, achieving 3-4 week implementations and 5-7% conversion lifts. Pete explains the technical challenges of structuring unstructured healthcare data with 100% accuracy, the strategic choice to own operations end-to-end rather than just provide tools, why referrals are the perfect wedge product as the most upstream data point, and his evolving views on how quickly AI will impact the gray area between administrative and clinical work. Throughout, he emphasizes the importance of meeting healthcare where it is (turning faxes into structured data rather than trying to force system-wide transformation) and building for today's payment models while working toward a bigger vision.

(0:00) Intro
(0:52) Pete's Journey in Digital Health
(1:45) Challenges in Behavioral Health
(3:38) Valerie Health: An AI Front Office
(4:47) Valerie's Unique Approach to Software
(6:16) Customer-Centric Solutions
(8:38) Data and AI in Healthcare
(10:19) Building a Successful Health Tech Company
(13:19) Future of AI in Healthcare
(16:16) Operational Challenges and Solutions
(28:57) Pricing and Value Delivery
(30:12) Quickfire

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Ep 66: Pete Shalek On The Future of Front Office Automation