Brendan Graham Dempsey talks to Jeremy Johnson about structures of consciousness, mapping the whole, and metamodern spirituality.

0:00 Introduction

2:32 A Trans-Disciplinary Approach

4:17 Seeking the Whole: Gebser

7:39 Seeking the Whole: Gebser vs. Wilber?

10:27 Modern Totalizing: The Limits of Developmental Maps

15:37 Our Meta Moment between Worlds

20:20 Living the Between: A Non-Totalizing Meta-Narrative?

25:47 The Meta-Crisis, The Meaning Crisis, and the Narrative of the In-Between

36:03 A Felt Sense of the Whole: Metamodern Reclaiming of the Non-Modern

48:28 Approaches to Modern Systems Transformation

58:47 Meta Spirituality: Being Present to the Whole

1:15:40 Concretizing Presence: Practices for Meta Living

1:23:24 Living Out Our Composite Natures: Concretizing Multiple Structures of Consciousness

1:38:48 The Whole Beyond Everything

1:41:24 A Myth of the Whole: "God" as Originary Presence?

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