Donald Trump retook the presidency, in part, by doing much better in American cities in 2024 than ever before. Why did these urban Democratic strongholds shift towards Republicans, and are these changes permanent?

Guests:

Henry Grabar, staff writer at Slate.

Ron Kim, representative for New York State’s 40th Assembly District.

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