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Cleaning Up: Leadership in an Age of Climate Change

The Fossil Fuel Endgame: Inside The Non-Proliferation Treaty — Ep197: Kumi Naidoo

Feb 19, 2025
Kumi Naidoo, a veteran activist with a remarkable 45-year career, shares insights on the evolution of climate activism. From his anti-apartheid roots in South Africa to leading Greenpeace and Amnesty International, he emphasizes the importance of emotional resonance in activism. Naidoo discusses the Fossil Fuel Non-Proliferation Treaty Initiative, advocating for a global approach to phase out fossil fuels. He reflects on the interconnectedness of social justice and climate action, urging for innovative political engagement and reforms in climate governance.
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  • Kumi Naidoo emphasizes that climate activism must shift focus from data-driven narratives to emotionally resonating stories that reflect people's lived experiences.
  • The Fossil Fuel Non-Proliferation Treaty Initiative aims to establish a global framework for phasing out fossil fuel production while promoting a just energy transition.

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The Heart of Climate Activism

Climate activism has largely failed because it has focused on cognitive narratives rather than emotional and human stories. Activists have relied on scientific data and policies, neglecting the deeper connections to people's hearts, bodies, and souls. This oversights the emotional context of climate change, which is a deeply human issue affecting jobs, health, and community wellbeing. The need for activism that resonates with people's everyday experiences and demands is critical for mobilizing effective change.

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