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Inside OpenAI | Logan Kilpatrick (head of developer relations)

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Feb 8, 2024

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Logan Kilpatrick

Logan Kilpatrick, Head of Developer Relations at OpenAI, shares insights from his diverse background as a machine learning engineer and advisor. He discusses the fast-paced, innovative culture at OpenAI and emphasizes the importance of high agency and urgency in employee hiring. Logan provides tips for writing better ChatGPT prompts and reveals how the GPT Store is performing. The conversation also touches on the future of AI products, the role of tailored AI in enhancing product development, and the significance of user feedback in improving AI interactions.

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ANECDOTE

OpenAI’s Thanksgiving Week Drama

Logan Kilpatrick describes the stressful Thanksgiving week at OpenAI when the board ousted Sam Altman.
Despite the shock and stress, the team quickly refocused on their mission, showcasing their dedication.

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INSIGHT

Beyond Chat Interfaces

Logan Kilpatrick is excited about new AI interfaces like Rabbit R1 and TL Draw, moving beyond chat.
He believes 2024 will be the year of multimodal AI and new UX paradigms.

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ADVICE

Building with OpenAI

Focus on specific use cases and vertical applications when building with OpenAI's APIs.
Avoid competing directly with OpenAI on general use cases unless your product is radically different.

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Navigating Leadership Changes at OpenAI

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Unlocking AI's Potential in Product Development

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Navigating Speed and Efficiency in Product Development

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High Agency and Urgency in Hiring

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The Future of AI and Communication

40:12 • 17min

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Unlocking Creative Potential with Innovative Design Tools

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Connecting Online and Inspiring Stories

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Exploring Interview Tactics and Personal Insights

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AI Comedy and User Engagement in Development

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Embracing AI: The Power of Hands-On Experimentation

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The One World Schoolhouse

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Sal Khan

Sal Khan's "The One World Schoolhouse" likely details the vision and impact of Khan Academy, a free online learning platform that provides high-quality education to students worldwide. The book probably explores the challenges and opportunities in online education, highlighting the potential of technology to democratize access to learning. It likely showcases success stories of students who have benefited from Khan Academy's programs and discusses the importance of personalized learning. The book likely also explores the future of education and how technology can be leveraged to create a more equitable and effective learning experience for all.

Why We Sleep

Matthew Walker

This book delves into the purpose and power of sleep, explaining how it affects every aspect of our physical and mental well-being. Walker discusses how sleep enriches our ability to learn, memorize, and make logical decisions, recalibrates our emotions, restocks our immune system, fine-tunes our metabolism, and regulates our appetite. He also explores the consequences of sleep deprivation and provides actionable steps to improve sleep quality, including ways to prevent cancer, Alzheimer’s, and diabetes, slow the effects of aging, and increase longevity.

Logan Kilpatrick leads developer relations at OpenAI, supporting developers building with the OpenAI API and ChatGPT. He is also on the board of directors at NumFOCUS, the nonprofit organization that supports open source projects like Jupyter, Pandas, NumPy, and more. Before OpenAI, Logan was a machine-learning engineer at Apple and advised NASA on open source policy. In our conversation, we discuss:

• OpenAI’s fast-paced and innovative work environment

• The value of high agency and high urgency in your employees

• Tips for writing better ChatGPT prompts

• How the GPT Store is doing

• OpenAI’s planning process and decision-making criteria

• Where OpenAI is heading in the next few years

• Insight into OpenAI’s B2B offerings

• Why Logan “measures in hundreds”

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Where to find Logan Kilpatrick:

• X: https://twitter.com/OfficialLoganK

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/logankilpatrick/

• Website: https://logank.ai/

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Where to find Lenny:

• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

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In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Logan’s background

(03:49) The impact of recent events on OpenAI’s team and culture

(08:20) Exciting developments in AI interfaces

(09:52) Using OpenAI tools to make companies more efficient

(13:04) Examples of using AI effectively

(18:35) Prompt engineering

(22:12) How to write better prompts

(26:05) The launch of GPTs and the OpenAI Store

(32:10) The importance of high agency and urgency

(34:35) OpenAI’s ability to move fast and ship high-quality products

(35:56) OpenAI’s planning process and decision-making criteria

(40:22) The importance of real-time communication

(42:33) OpenAI’s team and growth

(44:47) Future developments at OpenAI

(47:42) GPT-5 and building toward the future

(50:38) OpenAI’s enterprise offering and the value of sharing custom applications

(52:30) New updates and features from OpenAI

(55:09) How to leverage OpenAI’s technology in products

(58:26) Encouragement for building with AI

(59:30) Lightning round

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Referenced:

• OpenAI: https://openai.com/

• Sam Altman on X: https://twitter.com/sama

• Greg Brockman on X: https://twitter.com/gdb

• tldraw: https://www.tldraw.com/

• Harvey: https://www.harvey.ai/

• Boost Your Productivity with Generative AI: https://hbr.org/2023/06/boost-your-productivity-with-generative-ai

• Research: quantifying GitHub Copilot’s impact on developer productivity and happiness: https://github.blog/2022-09-07-research-quantifying-github-copilots-impact-on-developer-productivity-and-happiness/

• Lesson learnt from the DPD AI Chatbot swearing blunder: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/lesson-learnt-from-dpd-ai-chatbot-swearing-blunder-kitty-sz57e/

• Dennis Yang on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dennisyang/

• Tim Ferriss’s blog: https://tim.blog/

• Tyler Cowen on X: https://twitter.com/tylercowen

• Tom Cruise on X: https://twitter.com/TomCruise

• Canva: https://www.canva.com/

• Zapier: https://zapier.com/

• Siqi Chen on X: https://twitter.com/blader

• Runway: https://runway.com/

• Universal Primer: https://chat.openai.com/g/g-GbLbctpPz-universal-primer

• “I didn’t expect ChatGPT to get so good” | Unconfuse Me with Bill Gates: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-Ymdc6EdKw

• Microsoft Azure: https://azure.microsoft.com/

• Lennybot: https://www.lennybot.com/

• Visual Electric: https://visualelectric.com/

• DALL-E: https://openai.com/research/dall-e

• The One World Schoolhouse: https://www.amazon.com/One-World-Schoolhouse-Education-Reimagined/dp/1455508373/ref=sr_1_1

• Why We Sleep: Unlocking the Power of Sleep and Dreams: https://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Sleep-Unlocking-Dreams/dp/1501144324

• Gran Turismo: https://www.netflix.com/title/81672085

• Gran Turismo video game: https://www.playstation.com/en-us/gran-turismo/

• Manta sleep mask: https://mantasleep.com/products/manta-sleep-mask

• WAOAW sleep mask: https://www.amazon.com/WAOAW-Sleep-Sleeping-Blocking-Blindfold/dp/B09712FSLY

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