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During the empathy phase, therapists aim to understand the patient's thoughts and feelings while conveying warmth and compassion. This involves three components: thought empathy, feeling empathy, and warmth and compassion. It is essential to avoid trying to rescue the patient or provide solutions, focusing solely on empathizing and being present with their emotions.
The session delves into Mark's unresolved feelings of failure regarding his relationship with his son. Mark expresses his struggles in connecting emotionally with his son despite his efforts to protect him amid tumultuous circumstances. He reflects on his perceived lack of relational skills, attributing his challenges to a perceived defect within himself.
Mark reveals his deep-seated guilt, sadness, and feelings of inadequacy stemming from his perceived failure in nurturing a close family bond. He grapples with self-imposed standards and comparisons, feeling lonely and disconnected despite earnest attempts to foster relationships. Mark's inward reflection exposes his inner turmoil and desire for meaningful connections.
As the session transitions towards agenda setting, Mark grapples with his self-judgment and perceived brain defect affecting his relationships. Through compassionate exploration, Mark confronts his emotional turmoil and self-critical beliefs, shedding light on his complex journey towards self-acceptance and understanding. The session offers a glimpse into Mark's emotional evolution and the therapeutic process's transformative potential.
After reviewing Mark’s scores on the Brief Mood Survey, the Empathy phase of the session unfolds. During this phase of the session, David and Jill will not try to help, rescue, or save Mark. They will simply try to see the world through his eyes and provide some warmth and compassion.
Mark explains that he had two goals in life when he was a young man. He hoped to have a large, loving family; and wanted to become a skillful and compassionate physician. Although he has achieved the second goal, he has felt sad and guilty for decades because of his failure to develop a loving relationship with his oldest son from a previous marriage.
While Mark tells his story, David and Jill encourage him to record his negative thoughts and feelings on a form called the Daily Mood Log, and to rate how strong each feeling is, on a scale from 0% (not at all) to 100% (the most extreme).
Click here and you will see Mark's Daily Mood Log.
As you can see, Mark has many different kinds of negative feelings ranging in severity from 30% (moderate) to 80% (severe).
If you've been listening to the Feeling Good Podcasts, you know that negative feelings do not result from what’s actually happening in our lives, but rather from our negative thoughts about what's happening. David and Jill encourage Mark to record his negative thoughts on the Daily Mood Log as well, and to indicate how strongly he believes each one on a scale from 0% (not at all) to 100% (completely).
You can also see that Mark is telling himself that he's been a failure as a father, that his brain is defective, and that he is not doing a good job for David and Jill. These thoughts all involve self-blame. You'll notice that he also has two other-blaming thoughts. This is not unusual. When you’re not getting along with someone, you may spend part of your time telling yourself that the problem is all your fault, and part of your time telling yourself that it’s someone else’s fault. As a result, your negative feelings may shift back and forth from guilt and shame to anger and resentment.
Most therapists would not interrupt and ask their patients to record their negative thoughts and feelings while they are venting. However, this information will prove to be incredibly valuable later in the session.
Jill and David ask Mark how they’re doing on empathy. If Mark gives them a high rating, they will go on to the next phase of the session, called Paradoxical Agenda Setting. That’s where they will find out what, if anything, Mark wants help with, and see if he has any conscious, or subconscious, resistance to change.
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