In this episode, Indy Johar, co-founder of Dark Matter Labs, discusses the democratization of city-making and the need to address the structural dark matter questions that impact our society. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the root causes of global challenges such as climate breakdown and biodiversity loss. Indy also explores the need for a different set of language and constructs within business to address these challenges and transform our foundational economy.

The conversation explores the need for a radical transformation in our theory of corporation and the role of leaders in shifting from command and control to learning and coaching. It discusses the challenges of the current unsustainable path and the need to change the system and the way we think. The conversation also delves into the role of technology, such as AI and generative AI, in enabling the agentification of the world and driving new ways of dealing with complexity. It emphasizes the importance of curiosity, holding uncertainty, and building economies of discovery. The conversation concludes with the need to shift the flow of capital to invest in the unknown and manage risks in order to create a more positive future.

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The Curious Advantage Podcast is executive produced by Jessica Wickham and Aliki Paolinelis. Audio editing is expertly by Danny Cross. Video editing by Jessica Wickham and John McGinty.

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