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Refactoring Podcast

The State of Software Engineering — with Kent Beck

Feb 16, 2024
Kent Beck, original signer of the Agile manifesto, creator of Extreme Programming, and all-round programming legend, discusses the state of software engineering today, including topics such as agile vs power structures, the return of waterfall, extreme programming & TDD, feedback loops, code reviews & stacked diffs, and AI for writing and engineering.
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Quick takeaways

  • Agile has been co-opted by the power structure, resulting in a return to the status quo.
  • Psychological safety and short feedback loops are crucial in Agile for open communication and adaptability.

Deep dives

The Co-opting of Agile by the Power Structure

Agile was initially seen as a threat to the power structure, but it was eventually co-opted. The power structure allowed certain individuals to continue extracting value while others were left with crumbs. This co-opting of Agile has resulted in a return to the status quo.

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