
Refactoring Podcast
Weekly interviews with world-class engineering leaders about writing great software and working well with humans.
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Apr 18, 2025 • 43min
Measuring and Improving Developer Experience 📊 — with Abi Noda
In this engaging discussion, Abi Noda, the CEO and founder of DX, delves into the intricacies of measuring developer experience. He critiques common misconceptions surrounding productivity metrics and emphasizes the importance of diagnostic data over mere targets. Abi also shares insights from his journey in tech and the challenges faced in enhancing developer productivity. The conversation touches on the evolving role of AI, highlighting its potential versus actual impact on development teams. Tune in for a fresh perspective on driving innovation through better metrics!

Apr 17, 2025 • 57min
Open-source, complexity & AI coding 🔧 — with Salvatore "Antirez" Sanfilippo
Salvatore 'Antirez' Sanfilippo, the genius behind Redis and an acclaimed sci-fi author, dives into the world of open-source and AI. He shares insights on what makes an open-source project thrive and how AI boosts coding productivity, making him five times faster. The conversation explores the complexities of modern software and the balance between lifestyle and career as a developer. Salvatore also reflects on the creative parallels between writing a novel and software development, showing how storytelling can enrich both fields.

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Mar 21, 2025 • 45min
How to Coach CTOs 👑 — with Joel Chippindale
In this discussion, guest Joel Chippindale, a full-time CTO coach and mentor, delves into the nuances of coaching versus mentoring. He shares insights from his experience in helping CTOs navigate their unique challenges, highlighting the importance of self-awareness and effective communication. Joel emphasizes the role of coaching in fostering trust and advocacy in tech environments, while also addressing how CTOs can better delegate and focus on impactful initiatives. His passionate approach shines a light on the evolving landscape of leadership in technology.

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Mar 6, 2025 • 48min
The Future of Creative Organizations ✏️ — with Dan Shipper
Dan Shipper, CEO of Every and an influential voice in the tech world, dives into the exciting intersection of AI and creative organizations. He discusses how his company blurs the lines between content creation and product development, with AI writing 90% of their code. The conversation highlights the importance of generalists and adaptability in today’s tech landscape. Dan also reflects on the emotional challenges of entrepreneurship and the joy found in creative routines, emphasizing sustainability and collaboration as keys to innovation.

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Feb 24, 2025 • 1h 8min
Combining AI and Human Work 🤖 — with Marco Trombetti
Marco Trombetti, CEO of Translated, discusses the intersection of AI and human work in the translation industry. He shares insights on the evolution of AI models, particularly the advanced translator Lara, and explores the ethical implications of AI's rapid development. Trombetti also addresses the financial costs of training AI, the potential for job displacement in translation, and the importance of regulation. He highlights how AI can enhance human productivity while urging caution on its implications for the workforce.

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Feb 7, 2025 • 49min
User-experience, Local-first apps and dev tools 🔧 — with Adam Wiggins
In this conversation, Adam Wiggins, General Manager of Platform at The Browser Company and co-founder of Heroku, shares his insights on elevating user experience through software and AI. He delves into the concept of Local-first software, revealing its benefits for data ownership. Adam discusses the evolving landscape of developer tools, emphasizing the need to simplify complexities for better productivity. He also highlights how AI can revolutionize UX, unlock new potentials, and transform traditional workflows in web development.

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Jan 24, 2025 • 1h
Growing the development forest 🌲 — with Martin Fowler
In this discussion, Martin Fowler, chief scientist at ThoughtWorks and an Agile Manifesto co-signer, dives into the transformative impact of AI on software development. He highlights how AI can enhance productivity while also challenging traditional learning methods. The conversation takes a deep dive into technical debt, drawing parallels to financial debt, and offers practical strategies for management. Finally, they tackle the misconceptions surrounding Agile methodologies and emphasize the importance of nurturing junior developers to evolve the tech landscape.

Dec 6, 2024 • 59min
Profitable Engineering 🛠️ — with Aviv Ben Josef
Aviv Ben Josef, an executive coach with over 20 years in tech, shares insights on profitable engineering and building high-impact teams. He discusses the challenges of measuring engineering impact and why it's often seen as a cost. Aviv emphasizes the need for a cultural shift to view engineering as a strategic asset that drives profitability. The conversation also touches on intentional learning, bridging generational tech understanding, and connecting engineering work to real business value, especially in today's AI-influenced landscape.

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Nov 8, 2024 • 53min
The Evolution of Engineering Management 👑 — with Pat Kua
In this engaging discussion, Pat Kua, a seasoned engineering and leadership coach, shares his fascinating journey from Australia to Europe, highlighting his roles as CTO of N26 and principal consultant at ThoughtWorks. He delves into the evolution of engineering management, balancing technical and people skills, and the impact of hybrid work environments. Pat also presents the 'maker vs multiplier' framework and emphasizes the importance of foundational interpersonal skills for effective leadership. Tune in for insights into the future of tech management!

Nov 1, 2024 • 1h 9min
Career frameworks for Engineers and Managers 🪜 — with Francesco Dominidiato
In this discussion, Francesco Dominidiato, CTO at Moneyfarm and former CTO at high-growth startups, shares his vast experience in scaling tech organizations. He explores creating career frameworks for engineers and managers, addressing the evolving landscape of tech roles. The conversation highlights the importance of distinct paths for individual contributors and leaders, challenges related to organizational debt, and the necessity for transparent salary structures. Francesco also emphasizes the need for empathy in leadership to foster team growth and innovation.
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