

#061 How CEOs Build with AI - Sean Devine of XBE
Learning to Program for Leverage
- Sean Devine learned to program at 32 to gain leverage.
- He wanted leverage through machines instead of people or capital.
Early Programming Projects
- Devine built a lead generation database by scraping websites.
- He used his programming skills to improve pricing at his previous company, Partridge.
Expertise Reduces Funding Needs
- Devine believes that programming skills reduce the need for large seed rounds.
- He argues that expertise is now abundant, making large funding rounds less necessary.
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Topics:
(5:04) - Setting the stage: Sean’s company & programming background
(20:38) - Part 1: Individual Contributor AI Applications: ChatGPT 4
(44:23) - Part 2: Product Improvement AI Applications
(1:11:40) - Part 3: Organizational expectations post-implementation
(1:21:26) - What resources would you recommend for people to learn more about AI tools?
(1:22:55) - How do you view the landscape of your company given the advancement of AI?
(1:26:50) - Will this cause margins to increase?
(1:30:21) - How do you feel about the potential risks of AI?
(1:36:14) - How helpful was your technical background in implementing AI?
(1:39:24) - Where can people find you online?
(1:40:07) - IF YOU ARE AN ELIGIBLE BACHELOR SEEKING A SMART & ENERGETIC WOMAN, LISTEN TO THIS SECTION
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