Mattias Daly, a Taoist practitioner and translator of 'Taoist Inner Alchemy', shares deep insights from his unique journey. He discusses the lessons learned from his exorcisms, including how entities can infiltrate through pride. Mattias examines the complexities of gaining supernatural powers from these entities and the vast hierarchy of spiritual beings in Taoism. He contrasts deity worship with shamanistic possession, while recounting personal experiences that illuminate the power dynamics between humans and the spirit world.
Mattias Daly reflects on his exorcism experiences, highlighting the complex motives behind entity interactions and the need for awareness.
He discusses the vast hierarchy of Taoist spirit beings, emphasizing their imperial-like structure and the potential for both beneficial and problematic engagements.
Matthias contrasts cataphatic and kenotic Taoist practices, advocating for humility and internal cultivation over the pursuit of external spiritual powers.
Deep dives
Lessons from Exorcisms
Matthias Daly shares profound insights from the series of exorcisms he experienced, emphasizing the complex relationship between individuals and spiritual entities. He discusses how various spiritual traditions recognize the existence of different entities and their motives, which can range from benevolent to malevolent. The importance of awareness in spiritual practices is highlighted, particularly regarding the potential pitfalls of seeking special powers through these relationships. Ultimately, Daly stresses the necessity of caution and detachment in spiritual pursuits to avoid detrimental consequences.
Hierarchy of Spiritual Beings
In Taoism, there exists a vast hierarchy of spiritual beings, which includes ghosts, ancestors, and deities. Matthias examines how this hierarchy mirrors imperial structures, offering a complex landscape where spiritual interactions occur. He notes that many individuals may become entangled with disembodied beings to accrue merit, leading to interactions that can be both beneficial and problematic. His reflections underline the significance of understanding the roles and histories of these beings to navigate one's spiritual journey safely.
Cataphatic vs. Kenotic Taoist Practices
Matthias delineates the differences between cataphatic and kenotic approaches within Taoist practices, emphasizing the importance of internal cultivation over external demonstrations of power. While cataphatic practices might involve public displays of abilities, kenotic practices focus on self-emptying and humility. He recounts experiences that illustrate how these practices manifest in real life, particularly through rituals that emphasize a connection with higher spiritual realms. This distinction serves as a guide for practitioners to align their spiritual pursuits with Taoist philosophies effectively.
Spiritual Helpers and Mediumship
The concept of spiritual helpers is central to many Taoist teachings, with Matthias sharing anecdotes about individuals who channel information from these beings. He highlights that some practitioners view their abilities as results of their spiritual connections, while others regard them with skepticism. The differences between various forms of Taoist practice, including mediumistic possession compared to more orthodox practices, are explored in depth. This discussion exemplifies the complexities of navigating spiritual realms and the potential consequences of engaging with spirits.
Personal Experience and Reflection
Through personal narratives, Matthias illustrates how individual experiences with spiritual practices can vary significantly. He recounts an instance of perceived healing during a myofascial release course, which led to unexpected insights about the nature of perception and belief in spiritual phenomena. Engaging extensively with different practices, he reflects on the balance between seeking spiritual fulfillment and the risks of becoming overly attached to external validations. Ultimately, Matthias concludes that maintaining a humble, grounded approach to spirituality is essential for genuine growth and understanding.
In this episode I am once again joined by Mattias Daly, Taoist practitioner and translator of ‘Taoist Inner Alchemy’, published by Shambala.
Mattias reflects on lessons learned from the series of exorcisms her underwent in his 20s, as described in episode 263 of this podcast, “My Demon Exorcism”, including the means by which entities may gain entry, and the surprising motives for their doing so.
Mattias explains the vast hierarchy of spirit beings described in Taoism, considers the problems of obtaining special powers through relationships with entities and gods, and contrasts deity worship with voluntary shamanistic possession.
Mattias also reflects on different types of Taoist practices, drawing a distinction between cataphatic and kenotic approaches, and recounts a remarkable story of spiritual healing.
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Video version:
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Topics include:
00:00 - Intro
00:59 - Lessons learned after exorcisms
03:34 - Can entities give supernatural powers and siddhis?
06:44 - Entities enter through pride
08:15 - Entities piggyback on humans to accumulate merit
09:43 - The problem with gaining siddhi from entities
10:33 - A renowned Taiwanese siddha
11:59 - Do special powers come with spiritual attainment?
15:27 - Necessity to show off during rituals
17:54 - The vast celestial hierarchy of beings
22:10 - Abbess Liu’s spiritual journeys
24:11 - Making contact with higher beings
26:09 - Shamanism and voluntary entity possession
32:34 - Fr Michael Saso on cataphatic Taoist ritual
34:51 - Cataphatic vs kenotic practice
36:34 - Meeting a Taoist practitioner who had three spirit-helpers
43:13 - Requesting information from the spirit realm
49:59 - The cataphatic side of Taoism
52:43 - Learning a powerful somatic release technique and a remarkable healing
01:06:40 - Further healings and the purple cloud
01:17:43 - Mattias’ current views on entities and powers
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Watch the previous episodes with Mattias Daly:
- https://www.guruviking.com/search?q=daly
To find our more about Mattias Daly, visit:
- https://www.shambhala.com/authors/a-f/mattias-daly.html
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For more interviews, videos, and more visit:
- https://www.guruviking.com
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Music ‘Deva Dasi’ by Steve James
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