The podcast features Emma Walmsley, the CEO of GSK, Daniel Kahneman, a Nobel prize-winning psychologist, and Claire Hughes-Johnson, the one-time COO of Stripe. They discuss lessons in leadership outside the office, the importance of leadership and clarity, the value of being explicit as a manager, and the significance of stepping back and effective leadership.
Experiential activities in unfamiliar environments can reveal weaknesses and develop strengths in leadership.
Clear processes and systems are crucial for effective management, requiring structured decision-making and articulation of purpose, values, and goals.
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Lessons in Leadership Through Outdoor Experiences
Lessons in leadership are best learned outside the office, where unfamiliar environments expose weaknesses and forge new strengths. The podcast follows a group of MBA students on a trek in the Juttenheimen Mountains in Norway, where they learn about leadership through experiential activities.
The Importance of Clear Processes and Systems
Clear processes and systems are essential for effective management. The podcast emphasizes the value of having a structured approach to decision-making and problem-solving. It highlights the benefits of creating a shared roadmap and articulating the purpose, values, and goals of an organization.
Balancing Charisma and Management Skills
Being a good leader requires a balance between charisma and management skills. The podcast emphasizes the importance of being visible, enthusiastic, and energetic as a leader, while also emphasizing the need for effective management, including setting clear expectations, establishing rules, and implementing processes to ensure tasks are completed efficiently.
Andrew Palmer, The Economist's Bartleby columnist, learns lessons in management on a Norwegian mountainside. He hears from Emma Walmsley, the CEO of GSK; Daniel Kahneman, a Nobel prize-winning psychologist; and Claire Hughes-Johnson, the one-time COO of Stripe.
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