The System That Helped Them Eliminate Debt and Build a Scalable Business

Most business owners chase revenue. These two chased clarity—and built a system around it.

Chris and Jason scaled through chaos, eliminated debt, and turned their hard-earned lessons into a software tool that now helps other founders do the same. In this episode, they unpack how Profit First changed everything—and why most growth plans ignore the one thing that really matters: cash flow you can trust.