

Did Bombing Iran Work? (with Jake Sullivan & Jon Finer)
17 snips Jun 26, 2025
Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer, senior national security advisors to President Biden, delve into the recent U.S. military actions against Iranian nuclear sites. They discuss the tangible impact of these strikes on Iran's nuclear ambitions and dissect contrasting views on the nature of conflict, diplomacy, and regime change. The conversation touches on complex geopolitical dynamics involving Russia and North Korea, the role of public sentiment in military decisions, and the delicate balance of strategy and negotiation in addressing Iran's nuclear threat.
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Watching Crisis From Outside Government
- Jake Sullivan described the instinct to follow important crises closely even when powerless to act.
- He reached out to colleagues to share observations but recognized the limits of influence from outside government.
Bombing Iran Equals Act of War
- Bombing Iran constitutes an act of war regardless of the underlying target.
- The subsequent ceasefire places the conflict in a limbo needing clarity about the next steps.
Distinguishing Government from People
- The US distinguishes its conflict with Iran's government, not its people.
- Messaging focuses on opposing Iran's nuclear ambitions rather than antagonizing its population.