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Remkus de Vries, a WordPress performance specialist and strongman athlete, combines technical know-how with a holistic outlook on life and health in this episode of LMScast.

He talks about his curatorial WordPress weekly, Within WP, and his work on performance tools like as Scanfully. Remkus highlights the need to be genuine online in order to encourage feedback and personal development, in addition to fostering connection in a remote work environment that is frequently isolated.

He emphasizes the psychological and physical advantages of strength training and points out that long-lasting habits are formed by constant discipline rather than incentive. He suggests that those who are new to fitness endure whatever discomfort they may experience at first and concentrate on long-term outcomes rather than immediate gratification.

At almost 52, he is still dedicated to strength and health as a means of securing longevity and quality of life, serving as a potent reminder that making an investment in one’s own well-being also entails making an investment in the well-being of people we care about.

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Chris Badgett: You’ve come to the right place if you’re looking to create, launch, and scale a high value online training program. I’m your guide, Chris Badget. I’m the co-founder of LifterLMS, the most powerful learning management system for WordPress. State of the end, I’ve got something special for you. Enjoy the show.

Hello, and welcome back to another episode of LMS Cast. I’m joined by a special guest and friend I’ve known around the internet for a long time. I don’t know how long, maybe eight years, something like that. I remember I first shook Rimkus Dev RISE’s hand in, st. Louis, that’s when I first met you in person, I think.

Remkus Devries: Yeah. I could be wrong,

Chris Badgett: Yeah. But Rimkus is a WordPress performance expert. He is working on some training, a course about that. He also has a tool to help with that called Scan Fully. So go check out scan fully.com. Also, MKU has one of the few news letters that I moved to my primary inbox.

It’s called Within WordPress within wp.com. If you want to keep tabs on what’s going on in WordPress, it’s a great newsletter. We’re gonna get into all that. But first, welcome to show mku. And I pronounce it wrong, it’s D freeze, so it’s you could feel free to correct me if I mess up again, but welcome to the show.

Remkus Devries: Thank you, man. Happy to be here. Yeah. I think the first time is probably more than a decade ago.

Chris Badgett: Okay.

Remkus Devries: For 2025. And in 2015 I was aware of you already. I know that for a fact.

Chris Badgett: One of the things about that I remember at that word camp, I took my brother with me and it was the first time that I noticed, like when I first started going to some events.

I didn’t really know a lot of people, and then all of a sudden I started realizing that creating content, social media, getting out there there’s people watching and listening, and you it’s just a pro tip to get out from behind the computer, get out in the world, share yourself publicly.

But maybe let’s start there. You share your personal life. For example, rems, and correct me if I’m using the wrong term here. I know it’s not bodybuilding. He’s a strong man. Yep. So one of the things I like about REMS is, you can check out social media, you’ll find stuff about performance and WordPress, but you’ll also see him lifting and throwing and carrying heavy things.

So you put your whole self out there. Tell us about your approach to like just being you on the internet.

Remkus Devries: So I try not to overshare. Let’s start there. But I don’t know, it’s I think there’s I think there’s value for me as well as for whoever tunes, tunes into me. Understanding what the sort of mindset is behind a few of my choices, the things that I do.

Strongman lifting is one of them. But also performance, right? So there’s, for me, it’s not necessarily that I am like thinking about what am I going to share and what’s my story going to be and how am my angles and all that sort of stuff. But I also have realized that if you share, people will listen and people will re will respond and.

Since we are sitting in our offices online Sure. But, very isolated. It’s just my home office now again, my, my, my wife is sitting in front of me for most of the time. Not that alone, but you don’t have any colleagues around you, right? If you want to have some sort of connection and.

I appreciate connections. Then you have to show that you are there, that you’re available, that you have ideas and thoughts, and the more you share, the more feedback you get. And ultimately that leads to growth. And I like growth. I think I. Personal growth, whether that’s done on the professional side of things or the strength side of things, or the mental side of things, all of these things.

I put an effort in. I think they’re important and thus being online for me is a, is essentially a method, a way to do that.

Chris Badgett: Yeah. Yeah. And since we’re talking about the strength stuff I’m similar in a way that, I do a lot of hiking and running and getting out in nature and it keeps me sane.

And when I see somebody else like you who’s like outside throwing really heavy things over these high bars, I know it helps keep you sane. But tell us about mental health and just the value of exercise and getting outdoors and how you balance life.

Remkus Devries: The, there, there’s a saying where where the outcome is the more healthy you are in your body, the more healthy you are in your mind.

I think it’s, I think in Latin we say men in corporate Asana, something like that. But the, it’s a symbiotic thing. So the more you are in fact living in your body, less in your mind, the more benefit you’ll see in your mind and vice versa. So it doesn’t matter where you start really. ’cause if you start educating yourself on exercise, you’ll realize that is the one thing to do for longevity, for a better life, for quality, for better sleep, for all of these things.

I discovered this decades ago ’cause I can say that I’m past 50. One of the things I realized that I like going beyond limits that I see or feel and lifting heavy weights. Or carrying heavy weights or doing anything heavy for me is one of those things that absolutely forces me out of my mind.

’cause I can’t be thinking about how many plate. If you want me to see me at my dumbest, like my absolute dumbest, come join me in my strongman gym. I can’t even count what plates I should put on. That’s. It’s just too heavy. So I’ll be slow in 1, 2, 3, 4 times 25 kilos is what now? That’s 200. The bar is 200, so that’s two 20.

Okay, so then I need two more. Like I can’t do that fast. Like I need to do one or the other. The more I started doing that, the better I started feeling. So I was like, this is pretty straightforward, so why don’t I invest in this? And as it so happens, I am genetically predisposed to be stupid strong.

They turned out to be very heavy at the, in the end.

Chris Badgett: What how many days do you. Workout or get exercise. For me, it’s every day. I’m, it’s all varied. Some days of strength running fast, slow hills flat, but for me, I to do it every

Remkus Devries: day, yeah, I’ll walk every day. But working out, I have a minimum of three days a week.

But ideally I’m four, maybe five if it depends on the whole bunch of things. I have a home gym, so I have always room to do something. There’s a gym at two kilometers, which is what, a mile and a half away. So I also, I always have a way to do something and I’m of the opinion that even if I am cramped for time 20 minutes spent is 20 minutes well spent.

So I’ll prioritize that. I’ll focus on that. And, the. The easy part that comes with it is the more you keep doing it, the less it’s about discipline. It’s just habit. ‘Cause for, let me be very forward and straight on with this. It’s not about motivation, it is about discipline.

But if you do discipline often enough, it becomes just a habit. And I think that’s the power of, forcing yourself in your body, finding boundaries and going beyond them. Finding ways, and obviously I’m, I’m also hitting limits. There are certain things I can’t weigh.

I can’t lift heavier than what I currently can, and I probably never will. That’s also fine. I chose not to use any form of enhancements. So I am at my natural limits for some of the stuff that I do, but that’s fine. I can play around with the thing, how I do it or how often I do it, but doing it means I feel better.

Period.

Chris Badgett: I know for while we’re on this topic, for some people maybe they’ve just haven’t moved in a long time. They’re pretty sedentary and they get the bug, and I know once you get into it, it becomes part of your life. That’s the way I feel about it. But that period between making a change and installing that discipline and habit, what advice do you have to help people get over the initial resistance?

Remkus Devries: So accept that you’re going to be in discomfort for about three to four months. That’s a given. That’s a fact. So your body just needs to understand pain, understands recovery, all of those things. And that’s annoying, but it’s how it works. So if you can mentally on motivation or just sheer will power yourself through the first four months, let’s call it that then the benefits start becoming quite real.

And the rest is making sure you form a habit. Logging, getting a buddy there’s different ways of using something that helps you keep momentum. So I would primarily focus on finding that thing, that will motivate you. Some people will say, lifting weights or fitness or whatever version you pick it’s boring.

It’s just doing the same thing over and over again. What I don’t enjoy that. I don’t think it’s about the enjoyment of the exercise. I don’t think it’s about the reps. You do, I don’t think it’s about any of this stuff. What it, for me, what it’s about is the result. So what does it give me? I’m close to 52 and I can sprint and run and do all the things of guys half my age.

Now that’s worth something to me. I saw a very interesting I don’t know if it was an ad or just a, an interesting TikTok, but the gist of it was you say you die for your family, you do anything for your family, right? And then it showed some some family picks and then it said, but would you actually start investing time in feeling healthy and better because that is helping your family?

Would you put in, put the time in for that? And I was like, that. That’s pretty much that sums it up. I’d like to have the highest quality of life, not just now, but for the next 50 years. So what’s the best way to do that? And what modern science tells us what the data sells. That tells us.

That essentially means you need to be the strongest version you can be. And running is great, walking is great, but strength is where longevity lives. So I focus on strength.

Chris Badgett: Awesome. Speaking of consistency and discipline what got you obsessed with WordPress and specifically performance and speeding up sites?

Remkus Devries: So the, what got me into WordPress is basically I wanted to share some stuff that I was learning at the time and I needed a platform and I rolled into it quickly, was asked for friends and family. Can you build that for me? And that turned into a career. But the thing that pulled me into performance I think the, I come from an enterprise background.

Like I, I used to work at a large insurance company here in the Netherlands. And that gives you a different mindset. And with that mindset, I looked at WebPress and as well as the projects that I was doing, and I quickly, I. Rolled into sort of the more complicated types of sites. So when custom post types and custom taxonomies came around, that was heaven for me.

’cause now I can build anything on WordPress. And the first couple of sites that I’ve built had, some of them had 12, 13 custom post types and about double of that in custom taxonomies and everything needed to work together. And I quickly learned that a lot of optimizations we’ve seen in the last two, three years were not available then.

So you needed to work in an optimized version. So the more data, the more complexity, the more. Limits your hitting. So I was forced into looking what are ways that I can do this smarter, faster from the ground up and not after the fact, because building something and having it work great, but as soon as five, six people are on the site and it crashes, you go that’s not really motivating.

So I started Interesting. The, if. Being interested in the concept of if you wanna solve a problem, you need to start at the root. And that brings you to interesting discoveries, not just in WordPress or performance, but in life, I’d say. But for WordPress, that meant I needed to figure out how to build smarter.

And yeah, once you jump in that road, there’s no way out of it anymore. There’s just a smarter way to build.

Chris Badgett: So what does Scan fully and where did that come from and what does it do?

Remkus Devries: So Scan Fully is a WordPress site, health monitoring and performance monitoring tool. So our goal, and I’m doing this together with Barry Coy, who’s also from the Netherlands.

And the problem we want solve is. We want to be the tool that essentially monitors anything and everything that has to do with the performance and the health of your site. And so that’s things like op time and certificate monitors. Sure. There’s we pull in site health, that is present in your WebPress site.

We pull that into our dashboard so it’s easier to access, certainly if you have a bunch of sites in there. It’s just easier to navigate in our dashboard than it is to hop from, 30 different WebPress sites let alone hundreds. And, the thing we’ll be adding this year that’s going to make the biggest impact is we’re going to be monitoring for content health as well.

And that’s a very wide concept. So that basically means your broken links, your broken embeds images CSS files, JavaScripts, all the logical stuff. But we also include form validation e-commerce optimization and checking. Can somebody add to cart? Can they check out? And does everything work after an update?

All of these things we’re going to scan for quite regularly and fully.

Chris Badgett: Nice. You have a course coming too about performance and I know you mentioned getting into the foundations and helping people understand it and all the layers. What are some of the. The first three things people should look at with performance if they want, I want my fa my site to be faster.

I know that’s a hard question for an expert ’cause you’re like, it’s a lot of things and it depends, right? Yeah. But I’m going to cheat a little ’cause I’m gonna add step zero.

Okay?

Remkus Devries: So it’s gonna be four things. Step zero is building for performance. Meaning you don’t fix it at the end. ’cause caching is what most people think is the thing that solves performance or produces performance.

But caching doesn’t solve your performance. Caching makes an optimized version of your site. And the optimization can be that it’s a static version of the site, meaning full ht ML caching. You can move that to the edge CloudFlare or many of the other solutions, but you still haven’t solved performance.

’cause what does solving performance mean? That means there’s a cash hit ratio of a hundred percent. That’s never gonna happen and in some cases you may be lucky to get 50%. So depending on your type of sites, especially when you are logged in, for instance, with an LMS. Or e-commerce. You are by definition never looking at cache.

You may have elements that are cached. For instance, your menu, but your site is onc because you, if you are caching your site for a course, then whatever you just did, Chris will be seen by the next person trying to log in and they’ll see your version of the course, which is obviously a no-no. Step zero means you, you starting building for performance now.

I think the key there is, depending on the type of site, you need to be on the right hosting and there’s there’s. There’s a wide range of hosting plans out there for, at different hosting companies. I’m not gonna give you my my preference here, but I am going to say there’s ways of figuring out what per, what hosting company has good and great performance.

And spoiler alert, performance has nothing to do with support. You can have wonderful support, but a mediocre product, which is then looks like it’s fantastic. Not in the edge cases, not in really busy sites which I’m sure you’ve seen happen with your your product in many different ways. So that’s step one.

Your hosting needs to be perfect. Then step two means you need a theme that is a singular purposed theme. Meaning a theme needs to, he needs to have the base principle of wanting to do only one thing and do it well. That automatically means I don’t like themes that wanna be everything. A lot of the themes, for instance, on theme forest, that’s never gonna scale because there’s no optimization happening in the entire code of that theme anywhere, and they just wanna fix the output and cache, which again, back to step zero, that doesn’t solve performance.

And the third would be you have to have the desire to run and lean and mean sight. You have to force yourself to be. Wary of everything you introduce to your site that potentially may slow it down. That doesn’t mean you can’t have 70 plugins. And this may sound weird, but it’s not about the plugin amount, it’s about what they do.

I have clients running sites in less than 500 milliseconds, cached and uncashed that are running more than a hundred plugins. So the size, the number of the plugins isn’t the problem, what they do. Is the problem. So a plugin needs to be built in a fashion where it understands that if it’s not supposed to do anything, certainly not on every page load, it’s not doing anything so lean and mean.

And how can you stay lean and mean? Make sure you use a scanning tool that does it fully

Chris Badgett: Awesome. Tell us like who’s the perfect fit for Scan Fully, which is@scanfully.com, and who is a perfect fit for your upcoming course and where can they find that or get on the email list to know what.

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Chris Badgett: When it comes out, if you go to mku d.com/courses, you can sign up for, I have a few courses listed, but my site’s currently in the, in, in rebuild, so I’ll have a better landing page there. But there’s a form there where you can sign up to be notified when the courses go live. But the, the ideal customer is essentially boils down to one or two words.

Remkus Devries: That’s a WordPress professional, and I know that’s a vague word, but it essentially means anyone that wants to treat WordPress professional. So that’s agencies that, site owners that have sites that make money where you rely on it. Working perfectly or understanding the principle. And the performance course probably is focused a little less on the beginner, but I am covering every single layer.

And I’ll explain to you what that layer is. So you have an understanding of what that layer actually in, in, in in its full intent does. So that means. I’ll be throwing things at you like this is your DNS layer, and this is what happens on the DNS layer. This is what your certificate does.

And yes, there are a few cases where you get a wrong version of a certificate, your site will become slower and this is why. So you be are better equipped with the knowledge of, making the right decisions essentially. So I probably less about less super beginner. Anyone who regularly builds web sites or works with them, they’ll have a good understanding from both the course as well as using scan fully.

And then, and I should mention, the best features of Scan fully are up and coming for this year. But I urge you to get in now ’cause the price is as low as it ever it’s ever going to be.

Yeah, I was looking at that and it’s very reasonable. Speaking of WordPress professionals, one of the things creators.

My opinion really need to do is build their audience ideally in advance as soon as possible. The best day is 10 years ago. The next best is today. Yep. You started a newsletter and like I mentioned, it’s one of the few I follow. I just find it really value packed to the point and writing a newsletter. It really, you’re serving your community.

You’re also building an email list. I know you have. Pretty high open rates on your newsletter, but what’s the story of that? Why did you start it and what would you advise somebody who hasn’t built a newsletter for their community yet?

The answer to the second question, just start. I. Yeah, don’t wait it out.

Don’t think there will be a better time or I’m better well prepared. It’s the same with kids. There is never going to be a perfect time to have kids. Just have kids. If that’s what you want, ultimately go for it. Same for the newsletter. Just make that choice of where to host it. And you can go fancy and go straight to kit, but you can go, you can do beehive, you can do substack.

It really doesn’t matter. Just start. And in terms of the first answer. It’s, so I have the natural ability to process a lot of information and deduce from that what the thing is to remember here. Whether that’s a multitude of separate items or bringing back something complex to this is what it is about.

And I started sharing this on and off over the last, almost four years ago, five years ago now. And I enjoyed it, but I didn’t have a routine in it. Mostly because it was published on a site and I got less feedback. And at a certain point I realized, oh, people actually like what I digest ’cause it’s essentially my digest of the week.

With the focus of performance, security, and just fun tools, like stuff that you can build. Even cooler stuff on top of what Chris with. And I realized I should bring this to a newsletter I did and, what I essentially do is share stuff I think is interesting or has an a, a different angle from all the other newsletters you see out there.

So I want to have a particular voice and I work at having that voice. Sometimes a newsletter has a few commentaries on my end, and sometimes I basically have something to say about every single item I add. I’ll tell you why I am adding it or if I think it’s a really good one, then I will say that it’s less of a.

There’s a few more newsletters out there that just share. They just post the links and send it out. And I’m less about that. I’m more about quality. And I made a decision to not share specific stuff related to community stuff or drama or any of that sort of stuff.

There’s others that do that wonderfully. I don’t need to have that particular type of audience. I’d like to stay positive. I’d like to build. Stuff I’d like to help people understand what they can do with the platform that drives me, that motivates me, and I try to make that quite visible in my in my newsletter.

Chris Badgett: You mentioned you process a lot of information. I relate to that. I do that as well. I know there’s like a strength and personality type tool. I can’t remember which one called Input. And you can take a lot of input. Yeah. Of information,

Remkus Devries: I’m an info. Shorter is the best description I’ve had thrown at me at one point.

Chris Badgett: That’s awesome. I think a lot of course creators and kind of content people, but also a lot of people in the WordPress professionals, they take a lot of input. They’re researching technology, they’re talking to clients, they’re just input people. Given all that input. What’s your process from going, from your research of listening to podcasts or RSS feeds or the newsletters you’re subscribed to and blogs and stuff?

How do you translate that volume of input into a newsletter format?

Remkus Devries: Diligently. ’cause I have a few systems in place, so it depends on where I see the thing that I find interesting. Yeah. If it’s shared on X or blue sky, I turn it into a bookmark. If it’s A-U-R-L-I see somewhere I have.

I prepare all my newsletters in obsidian. So I have a template that is my newsletter, and I essentially copy and paste all the things that I see as I see them. And I, and on Friday I sit down and I take a, an, it’s about an hour, and I process all the bookmarks, all the links that I had in a fashion that it is digestible for someone else as well.

Oh and obviously the I’m subscribed to probably 50 plus newsletters, about 150 sites on RSS. And I’ve always done this, I’ve done this since 2007, so I, for me, it’s just normal to check my systems for information and translate that. What I find interesting into obsidian. So I can then copy and paste it from obsidian into kit and it’s marked down in obsidian and Kit when I paste it just accepts that.

So it’s very little work. It’s basically just me processing the things that I’ve seen. And sometimes I add something during the week that I, on Friday, go yeah, nevermind. And sometimes even on the Friday, I see stuff being talked about left and right and go oh, interesting. I should add that quick.

So it’s yeah it’s a continuous process,

Chris Badgett: so it’s really just you living your life, getting the information you want. And then about an hour on Friday and you have a newsletter.

Remkus Devries: Yep.

Chris Badgett: What about consistency? Do you ever feel like, oh gosh, I have to write the newsletter today, or it’s become a labor of love, or you just enjoy it?

Remkus Devries: I enjoy it, but there’s Fridays where it just doesn’t work because so last Friday I was in in Munich and I was busy all day. So that means no time for this, and I don’t prepare them on, like during the week. I don’t prepare, write them. I process it on Friday. So I have my links, I have my bookmarks, but I’m not complete.

The next morning, on the Saturday morning, I sent out the newsletter. So I’m okay with being flexible like that. And I’m also okay with skipping a week if it just doesn’t work for whatever reason. And I’ve, I have done that in the last couple of months twice I think. And it’s just what it is.

I’m human. I have things popping up on my priority list and there is, there’s companies sponsoring me and I let them know this is the schedule and unless it’s like super important, it goes absolutely out on this day because the campaign is related to it. I’m general as flexible as I can be.

That said, for. I don’t know the per year. I missed maybe three, maybe four top. So it’s it yeah it’s more about I don’t want it to be that I feel that I’m forced to do it, so that means I need to have that flexibility to let one go if if need be.

Chris Badgett: So that’s it within wp.com, I highly recommend it.

It’s an awesome newsletter. Thank you. And you mentioned sponsorship. I think that’s really cool for a course creator as an example. Sometimes it takes time, as to build a course. Yep. And so if you’re building your email list and maybe generating a little revenue through newsletter sponsorship, how do you get sponsors and what’s your approach to that?

Remkus Devries: I don’t approach it.

Chris Badgett: Okay.

Remkus Devries: It just happens. They approach you. They approach me. At a certain point people started asking me can you share some promotional stuff in your newsletter? Yeah, sure. So I sat down and wrote out what I think I’m worth. That’s not right.

And I think I’m worth more, but what the newsletter’s worth. Wrote out a sponsor within WordPress page.

It interesting to share with my public, then I’ll add you to it. And If you ask me to share something, I will point you to the.

Sponsor list. So that means sometimes something commercial is being shared and it’s not sponsored, but it could, that’s my choice. If you ask me, then I choose to ask a compensation for it. Maybe a weird model, but that works in my head. That means I stay true to my integrity and, don’t muddy the water with half type of messages in here.

You’ll see me, mentioned plenty of commercial solutions and I’m okay with that. It’s it’s a little bit it makes sense, right? So there’s there’s, there is advertisers or sponsorships where I say no. This is no match for me. Yeah. But we really want to get in front.

Yeah I get it. But for me, no, it doesn’t work. So I’m selective. I need to like the product I. I need to like the people even. It’s, yeah. I’m weird like that.

Chris Badgett: I don’t think that’s weird. That sounds awesome. Going back to the personal side i’ve noticed on social media that you like to drive.

So when you go to conferences, as an example, I will watch you fly into a town and then drive across the country. I see you driving around Europe and going through, border crossings. I see you, I think you did one with your son. Yep. And you guys had an adventure. What’s the pull of driving? And I just, I relate to it because I always say if I wasn’t in tech, I’d probably be a long distance truck driver and just listen to podcasts all day.

Oh yeah. Why do you like it?

Remkus Devries: I’m born and raised inside a family business that had, anything from a gas station to a garage, to a body shop taxi company, car rentals. We did the whole thing. So from the age of three, I know cars and I enjoy a car for what it is. Sure. Transporting from A to B, but I also enjoy the beauty of the car and the, I don’t know the freedom that comes with it.

When it comes to road tripping.

So I like the idea of, so for instance, last, what was October, November I drove to the Black Sea, and if you look up the Netherlands the north of the Netherlands, and you look then at the Black Sea go, that’s a ridiculous distance. Who does that? But I looked at it and went that’s a stupid thing to do.

I should do that. And I enjoyed it. So driving all the way through Bulgaria, ending up at the Black Sea, that’s the largest body of water that I’ve seen. I think. No. May, no. I, no, possibly. Anyway it’s a stupid distance. I was like, that’s cool. Let’s do that. And we, camp Sophia was an option and I was in I applied to speak and I, and they said yes. Good match for Workcamp Europe. The last three editions I drove with my son, so he’s he’s on the photography team. So I drove to Porto with him. I drove to Athens, which also a three day drive and I drove to Torino and we’ll be driving to basel in Switzerland in about yeah. About two weeks. And for me, you can fly. Sure. But I enjoy seeing the roads, the countryside process, the travel and having the freedom to stop wherever I want. So especially in in Switzerland, there’s mountain passes, which I thoroughly enjoy. I’ll drive around.

It’s not that I hate flying, but I just like driving more. When we met last at Press Con, I flew to Miami. Got in the car in Miami, went to Key West first, and then back up all the way through New Orleans. Up to Graceland, went down to Texas, saw Dallas Deley Plaza drove down through New Mexico.

I. Saw the largest pistachio in the world. Super weird but fun. Ended in tombstone for a night and then drove up to Tempe, Arizona. And that was like five days. So it’s long, but I also enjoy it and I enjoy the alone time as much as I enjoy the the, driving with my son.

Chris Badgett: Awesome.

That makes sense. Being a strong man, working out and also just getting out in the world driving, going to conferences, and what keeps, I think this is, these are all important parts of mental health, so

Remkus Devries: Totally get it the alone time forces you to. So I just I just got back this weekend from Minchin Munich. It’s a good day to drive. I can do those long hours driving. And I think I’m used to it. That’s one. But it’s also fine if I drive for blocks of three, four hours. That works for me, but I enjoy the alone time. That’s a dedicated time to think about things. I don’t have to force myself to think about it. But I know it’s gonna happen anyway.

You can turn the music on, sure. That’s gonna make it even more pleasurable, but at some point you start thinking about things and that it’s a good way to process thoughts. I do that less in an airplane, for instance. That doesn’t, I’m more like, that’s a lot of noise around me. It’s people way too close.

If I can have the comforts of my own car, yes, please. That’s awesome. If I could drive to the United States, I would.

Chris Badgett: You might be able to if you go through bearing Strand.

Remkus Devries: Yeah. I don’t think that is there a bridge or have they talked about a bridge? I think they’ve only talked about it.

Chris Badgett: As far as I know, there’s just like a certain part of the winter, there’s a ice road. Yeah,

Remkus Devries: we’re not doing that. There is limits.

Chris Badgett: That’s Rimkus DeVries. You can find them@scanfully.com. Go check that out to speed up your website. Monitor it improve your performance. Also the within wp.com, the newsletter.

Thanks for co coming on the showroom. ’cause any final words for the WordPress professionals out there?

Remkus Devries: Final words, I don’t know. Stay fresh. Stay fresh. Start thinking about what your foundation of a fast and perform at WordPress site should look like before you need to build it.

Chris Badgett: Awesome. Thanks for coming on the showroom kiss.

Remkus Devries: Happy to. Thanks for having me.

Chris Badgett: And that’s a wrap for this episode of LMS Cast. Did you enjoy that episode? Tell your friends and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss the next episode. And I’ve got a gift for you over@lifterlms.com slash gift. Go to lifter lms.com/gift. Keep learning. Keep taking action, and I’ll see you. In the next episode.

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