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Todays show:

Beeper's Eric Migicovsky joins Jason to discuss Beeper's mission of providing a universal chat app (1:32), Apple blocking Beeper Mini after just 3 days (13:35), fighting back against Apple as a startup founder (18:31), and much more!

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Timestamps:

(0:00) Beeper’s Eric Migicovsky joins Jason

(1:32) Beeper and its mission of providing a universal chat app

(6:30) How Apple locks people into iMessage and makes it hard to switch from iPhone

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(13:35) Beeper Mini's release and Apple blocking Beeper Mini after just 3 days

(18:31) Fighting back against Apple as a startup founder

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(22:18) The fight against Apple and thoughts on the outcome

(28:01) Prior experience dealing with platform restrictions at Pebble and the differences in timelines between startups and government regulation

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(36:17) Apple's response to recent court rulings requiring App Store changes

(38:54) Speculation on whether Apple's AR glasses will succeed

(41:35) Eric's vision for the future with open protocols for messaging and Beeper's business model

Mentioned on the show:

https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/9/23995150/beeper-imessage-android-apple-statement

https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-2019-2024/europe-fit-digital-age/digital-markets-act-ensuring-fair-and-open-digital-markets_en

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/getpebble/pebble-2-time-2-and-core-an-entirely-new-3g-ultra

https://37signals.com/podcast/this-again-apple/

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