Sports & political commentator Clay Travis joins Chuck Todd for a candid conversation that spans the worlds of politics, sports, and media. They explore the shifting boundaries between culture and athletics, the pressure of serving a politically-charged audience, and what Clay learned from stepping into Rush Limbaugh’s former timeslot. Clay discusses the importance of distinguishing fact from opinion, the challenges of modern political incentives, and how law school shaped his worldview. The two also talk about the realities of online hostility, audience expectations, and Clay’s belief that influence in media can outweigh influence in elected office.
The episode also digs deep into college football: conference realignment, the CFP committee’s biases, southern schools’ growing appeal, and how cultural and political trends—from Gaza protests to regional identity—shape the sport’s landscape. Clay and Chuck debate how to fix the playoff system, what makes college football uniquely personal for fans, and which major sports league Nashville could attract next. Clay closes by sharing the presidential contenders he wishes would run in 2028 and why treating political opponents like rival sports fans could be a healthier way forward.
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Timeline:
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00:00 Clay Travis joins the Chuck ToddCast
01:30 GW’s near win over the Fab Five
03:30 Thoughts on McAfee interviewing Trump on ESPN?
04:15 If the president wants to do your show, you do it
05:30 Are you a sports guy that does politics or a politics guy that does sports
06:15 Taking over Rush Limbaugh’s timeslot for Premiere Radio
07:30 Balancing sports content vs. politics content
09:00 Sports used to be separate from culture, now they’re intertwined
10:45 Having the audience you want vs. the one that you have
11:30 Clay’s audience is people who voted Trump, love football, hated Covid masks
12:30 Not letting your audience be your editor
15:00 Learning not to care too much what people think about you
16:15 Everybody is mean on the internet, you have to have thick skin
18:00 Going to law school was the best decision Clay ever made
20:30 We need better distinction between fact & opinion in politics
21:15 Politics doesn’t attract the best & brightest due to low pay
22:00 Too many people in politics just want to be famous
23:15 Nick Saban could have been great at anything, including politics
25:30 Non SEC & Big Ten schools get no notice from the CFP committee
28:00 It’ll be interesting to see which big conference ACC programs try to join
29:30 Southern schools have become a huge draw for northern students
30:30 Gaza protests have affected student recruitment at some schools
32:00 Lane Kiffin will be the hottest name in the college coaching market
33:15 CFP committee cherry picking results, not acknowledging ACC
34:15 College football is the sport we’re always arguing about
35:00 Playoff selections need to be non subjective, needs a new system
36:15 Dems focus on what America did wrong, R’s focus on what went right
38:00 Quality wins should matter more than quality losses
38:45 People feel a closer personal connection to college football compared to NFL
39:30 Best way to reconfigure the college football playoff?
41:15 College football should start in August prior to NFL kicking off
43:00 What’s the next major sport coming to Nashville? MLB
44:00 There are more NHL, NBA and NFL teams in SEC footprint than MLB
45:30 Sports is unique in that the competition IS the business
47:30 Four people Clay would like to see run for president in 2028
50:00 Pitchforks are coming for corporate America & business candidates
51:45 Any interest in running for office?
52:45 Can have more influence and impact in media than in politics
53:45 Paul Finnebaum mulling run for office
55:15 We’d be better off if we treated political opponents like opposing fans
57:30 Nashville is always viewed as the “new _____”
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