On episode 393 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: the year that was in the stock market, expectations for 2025 returns, the Steve Ballmer portfolio, record ETF flows, the new normal of speculation, rich retirees who won't spend their money, the new normal of 7% mortgage rates, eff you money vs. your job, speaker phones, travel budgets, and much more!

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Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense

Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor

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