The podcast explores the Israeli sentiment towards Jewish settlements in Gaza after the war. It discusses the divisions within Israeli society, the desire for separation, and the challenges of peace with Palestinians. The speakers find hope in regional peace agreements and propose a joint Israeli Arab force for rebuilding Gaza.
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The podcast highlights the split in public opinion regarding the future of Gaza, with some Israelis favoring a renewal of Jewish settlements as a response to feeling unheard and uncredited.
The episode suggests the importance of regional agreements and involvement of Arab countries in resolving the Palestinian issue, highlighting the potential for a different approach to separation and joint responsibilities.
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Israeli Mood Shift during a Lengthy War
The podcast episode discusses the ongoing war and the shift in the mood of the country as a result. It highlights the challenges of a prolonged conflict, where the mood of the nation fluctuates on an hourly basis. The speaker also mentions personal experiences of emotional roller coasters due to the war. Despite a previous consensus on the purpose of the war and the desire for new elections, the episode reveals a split in public opinion regarding the future of Gaza, with different preferences on issues such as renewing settlements or international military control.
Emotional Context and the Shifting Israeli Psyche
The podcast delves into the emotional context surrounding the poll results and the impact of October 7th on the Israeli psyche. It explains the fear and desperation among Israelis, the fantasy of rebuilding settlements in Gaza as a response to feeling unheard and uncredited, and the anger towards the world for failing to acknowledge Israel's sacrifices and legitimate concerns. The episode suggests that the anger revealed in the poll is predominantly directed towards Gazans, but it questions the feasibility and credibility of the desire to renew settlements.
Longing for Separation and Hope for Renewal
The podcast explores the renewed longing for separation and the potential for a different approach in the future. It reflects on the historical debate within the Israeli left about the purpose of the Oslo process and the visions of peace and separation. The episode discusses the challenges and limitations of complete separation from the West Bank in terms of security and highlights the importance of regional agreements and involvement of Arab countries in resolving the Palestinian issue. It also suggests the renewal of Rabin's approach, where separation is coupled with an investment in a different future and joint responsibilities.
What does Gaza look like after this war is over? A recent poll showed thirty percent of Israelis favoring a renewal of Jewish settlements in the Gaza strip. While considering the popularity of this sentiment surprising and troubling, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi discuss why some Israelis have developed this view. They ask: what it will take for Israelis to feel safe living alongside a Palestinian state after the devastation and violation of October 7?