383. "The Importance of Nothing" - Christopher Ryan

In this episode, Jeremy Donch speaks with Christopher Ryan, a recently promoted captain from Gloucester City, New Jersey. They discuss the evolution of the Gloucester City Fire Department, the challenges faced in small-scale firefighting, and the impact of a tragic fire in 2002 that resulted in the loss of three firefighters and two children. Thomas Stewart III, James Sylvester and John West were killed during this fire on July 4, 2002. Christopher shares his personal journey through the fire service, the emotional toll of the job, and his struggles with alcoholism following the traumatic events. The conversation highlights the importance of support, recovery, and the lessons learned from both personal and professional experiences. In this powerful conversation, Christopher Ryan shares his journey of recovery from addiction, the challenges he faced, and the importance of community support. He reflects on his experiences in the fire service, the lessons learned from failure, and the responsibility that comes with leadership. The discussion emphasizes the significance of vulnerability, accountability, and the need for open conversations about mental health within the fire service. Takeaways The fire service is a small, interconnected community. Promotion brings new responsibilities and challenges. Gloucester City has evolved from a combination to a fully career department. Small departments face unique challenges in firefighting. Volunteer fire departments can serve as a training ground for future career firefighters. The 2002 fire incident had a profound impact on the community and the fire service. Emotional tolls from traumatic events can lead to unhealthy coping mechanisms. Recovery from trauma requires support and understanding. Alcoholism is a prevalent issue in the fire service. Personal reflection is crucial for growth and recovery. My part-time job saved my ass, not the firehouse. Once I surrendered, it made it easier for me to go through rehab. I owe my second chance to my friends and family. I hit the lottery twice with my recovery and career. You don't need people who don't support you in your life. Failure has shaped who I am today. Every day is not sunshine and rainbows for me. You have to actually start to succeed. It's okay to admit you have a problem. Take this conversation back to the firehouse and talk about it.