Jessica Cordova Kramer and Stephanie Wittels Wachs are the co-creators of Lemonada Media, a podcast network that shares the unfiltered version of the human experience.

In 2015, Steph lost her brother, beloved comedian Harris Wittels, to a heroin overdose. And in 2017, Jess lost her newly-married brother Stefano Cordova, Jr. to a fentanyl overdose.

In this episode we talk about creating Last Day, how Stephanie produces their narrative shows, how Jessica’s intuition led to creating Lemonada Media, and why creativity can help us express grief.

Transcript and show notes can be found here

If you or someone you know is struggling emotionally or feeling hopeless, it’s important to talk to someone about it now. In the show notes I’ve included resources for free, confidential conversations with a trained counselor anytime.