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Controversies in Church History

The Traditionalist Movement, Episode 2: "Disobedient People," 1964-1974 (Pt. 2)

Aug 9, 2021
The podcast explores the traditionalist movement's efforts to preserve the old Roman liturgy after the new Roman missal was introduced in 1970. It discusses the emergence of traditionalist movements in Europe and America, the critics of the post-consilior church, and the organizational support for the traditionalist movement. The podcast also delves into the critiques of the Catholic Church and Anglican reforms, the power dynamics between bishops and traditionalists, and a debate on the authority of the pope.
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Quick takeaways

  • The traditionalist movement in the Catholic Church emerged as a response to the changes in liturgy and the Second Vatican Council, with lay writers and activists criticizing the new Roman missal and post-conciliar reforms.
  • Traditionalist groups fought for exemptions and preservation of the old Mass, facing opposition from Rome and tensions regarding the authority of the Pope and Episcopal conferences to decide liturgical matters.

Deep dives

Response to the new Roman Missile

Traditionalist groups faced chaos and liturgical changes with the promulgation of the new Roman Missile in 1970. This event led to the formation of a distinct traditionalist movement within the Catholic Church. The traditionalist sphere emerged, including newspapers and journals, such as Christian Order and Itin Haya, which criticized the new liturgy and the changes following the Second Vatican Council. Triumph and The Remnant were American organs of traditionalism that published critical articles about the liturgy. Other organizations, like Tradition, Family, and Property in Brazil and the Roman Forum, also supported traditional Catholic doctrine and culture. Additionally, non-Catholic figures, including authors like W.H. Auden and Jacques Maritain, criticized post-conciliar reforms.

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