TIMELESS // ‘How to Become a good Elder and Ancestor’ with Vanessa Andreotti - E227
Nov 27, 2024
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In this episode, Vanessa Andreotti, a Brazilian educator and advocate for Indigenous rights, explores how to become good elders and ancestors. She emphasizes the need for a collective responsibility beyond our own lives. Vanessa invites listeners to reflect on what it means to age gracefully, the significance of storytelling, and the deep connections between generations. She critiques society’s view on aging, highlighting the potential for transformation through disillusionment and the urgent need for intergenerational wisdom. This conversation is a profound reminder of our role in shaping the future.
Eldership involves sharing wisdom through grace and humility, transforming personal mistakes into communal learning for future generations.
Embracing pain as a vital teacher allows for deeper self-understanding and fosters resilience, redefining our relationship with time and aging.
Deep dives
The Essence of Eldership
Eldership is characterized not by having all the answers, but by the ability to process one's mistakes and share wisdom with future generations. This perspective emphasizes the importance of grace and humility in learning from errors, framing these experiences as generous acts of responsibility towards others. The speaker highlights that true wisdom involves a commitment to ensuring that past mistakes are not repeated, making it a communal rather than individual journey. This reframing challenges the conventional view of aging as a decline, instead positioning it as an opportunity for deep reflection and mutual support across generations.
Rethinking Pain and Time
Pain is presented as a complex teacher, urging individuals to move beyond the dominant culture's unrealistic expectations of a pain-free existence. The conversation advocates for embracing pain as an essential part of life, a necessary element in understanding oneself and developing resilience. Additionally, the idea of time is explored, suggesting that we must learn to interact with time on multiple levels, appreciating its organic nature rather than viewing it through a purely linear lens. This transformation is essential for aging with dignity and understanding the deeper meanings of life and death.
Imagining a Pathway to Maturity
The narrative includes a metaphorical story of 'the four mountains,' illustrating a pathway for personal growth and maturity throughout life stages. Each mountain signifies distinct phases of existence, from infancy to eldership, emphasizing the interconnectedness of these experiences and the necessity of passing wisdom between generations. This model critiques the lack of rites of passage present in modern culture, underscoring the importance of preparing individuals as they transition into new life stages. Ultimately, this approach fosters a vision of a society where responsibility for future generations is a communal value, transforming how we view education and personal development.
Drawing on her work as an educator, indigenous and land rights advocate and her mixed family history, Vanessa invites us to reflect on what it means to die well. How to become good elders and ancestors?
This timeless wisdom teaches us about the ways in which we can be in service of the greater good. The times we are living in often make it difficult for elders to play their role and teach the younger generation about the mistakes and successes they have experienced. Vanessa sparks ideas around the multiple layers of time, aging and pain and opens up opportunities to interact differently with our elders and ancestors so we can let their stories be medicine for generations to come.
This is from our archives, part of a beautiful and powerful conversation we had in episode 156 with Vanessa Andreotti on Radical Tenderness, Eldership and Decolonisation // Embracing Our Pain. We hope that hearing this small piece will allow you to find new insights, embrace them and continue this practice of becoming a good elder and ancestor.
Links from this episode and more at allthatweare.org
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