Talk About Talk - Communication Skills Training New Strategies to Overcome IMPOSTER SYNDROME with Kim Meninger (ep.190)
Feeling like a fraud? You’re not alone. In this episode, Dr. Andrea Wojnicki and Kim Meninger explore the roots of imposter syndrome and share actionable strategies to move through it with courage, clarity, and impact. Learn how to lead more inclusive meetings, build authentic confidence, and reframe self-promotion as a meaningful contribution.
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CONNECT WITH KIM
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- Podcast: The Impostor Syndrome Files
- TEDx: How to Bring Your Diverse Voice to the Workplace
TRANSCRIPTION
Self-promotion, when approached strategically, is a service…to others and to ourselves. Nobody is hired just to fill headcount; they’re brought on because of their unique combination of skills, strengths, and capabilities. If you don’t share what you know and what you can do, it becomes harder for others to leverage your strengths. That creates inefficiencies and redundancies.
Thinking of self-promotion as an act of service allows us to reframe what might otherwise feel selfish or boastful. Instead of asking, “How can I tell everyone how great I am?” consider asking, “How can I help?”
Meet my new friend, Kim Meninger. Kim is an expert on imposter syndrome. In this episode, you’re going to hear our conversation (yes, conversation, not interview) about this powerful and often misunderstood topic. We take turns asking questions, building on each other’s ideas, and sharing practical strategies.
You’ll learn new mindsets and actionable tactics to help you combat imposter syndrome and communicate with confidence. These are tools you can start using right away. Ready?
Welcome to Ep.190 of the Talk About Talk Podcast
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Introducing Kim Meninger
Andrea Wojnicki (AW):
Today, we’re tackling imposter syndrome with Kim Meninger, a leadership coach, TEDx speaker, and host of the Impostor Syndrome Files podcast. Kim’s mission is to make it easier to be human at work. She brings a wealth of experience, including leadership roles at EMC and Monster, and she holds an MBA and a Professional Certified Coach credential. Kim is passionate about helping professionals boost their confidence, collaborate effectively, and show up authentically at work.
Let’s Talk Imposter Syndrome
AW:
Kim, thank you for being here to talk with me and the Talk About Talk listeners about imposter syndrome.
Kim Meninger (KM):
Thank you for having me! I’m really excited for this conversation.
AW:
Me too. Let’s dive in. First, tell me about your perspective on imposter syndrome.
KM:
Imposter syndrome, for me, is rooted in anxiety. It’s that constant fear that someone will discover you’re not good enough. While it’s not a clinical diagnosis, it’s very real. It keeps us playing small, avoiding risks, and staying quiet. Recognizing that fear is the first step in managing it.
AW:
Absolutely. And research shows this affects almost everyone, not just women, not just junior professionals, and not just those who appear to lack confidence. In fact, feeling imposter syndrome can be reframed as something positive. If it’s holding you back (say, from raising your hand in a meeting) it will only get worse unless you address it.
Tactics to Overcome Imposter Syndrome
AW:
Here are three of my go-to tactics for managing imposter syndrome:
- Reframe the adrenaline
When I feel that spark of nervous energy, I reframe it as excitement. Energy I can use to shine. - Breathe, especially the exhale
I focus on slowing my exhale. It signals to my brain that I’m safe, which calms anxiety. - Use distanced self-talk
Based on research by Dr. Ethan Kross in his book Chatter, I speak to myself in the second person: “Andrea, you’ve got this.” It’s incredibly effective.
KM:
Those are powerful. I especially love the focus on breathing. It’s a simple way to ground yourself. I also encourage clients to:
- Speak slowly: It keeps thoughts and speech in sync and projects confidence.
- Do scary things regularly: Perfectionists often avoid risk. Stretch your comfort zone consistently.
- Keep an accomplishments journal: Write down three things you did well each day. It rewires your brain to notice strengths and successes.
AW:
That ties beautifully into personal branding. Owning and articulating your strengths.
Framing Self-Promotion as a Service
AW:
Let’s talk about self-promotion. Many people fear sounding arrogant. But there’s a sweet spot between paralyzing anxiety and overconfidence. I recommend:
- Adopting a growth mindset: “I know what I know, and I’m keen to learn more.” This keeps you grounded and curious.
- Using the phrase “people tell me”: Instead of saying “I’m great at this,” say, “People tell me I’m great at this.” It sounds credible and authentic.
KM:
Exactly. I also frame self-promotion as a service. If you don’t share what you’re good at, others can’t benefit from your expertise. Start by:
- Updating your manager regularly: Share what you’re working on and what skills you’re using.
- Teaching others what you know: Sharing knowledge is self-promotion that helps the team.
- Shaping your brand: Focus on what you want to be known for. Not just what you’ve done in the past.
Leadership & Imposter Syndrome
AW:
For leaders: how can you support team members dealing with imposter syndrome?
KM:
Assume your team members have it. Most do. Structure meetings to include:
- Before: Send an agenda and pre-read materials.
- During: Use diverse participation methods: go-arounds, raised hands, written input.
- After: Debrief and solicit additional input.
AW:
Yes! And I always recommend leaders track the ratio (how much airtime each person gets). Extroverts should self-monitor, and leaders should create space for quieter voices. This ensures balanced contributions.
Final Thoughts on Imposter Syndrome
KM:
Remember: imposter syndrome is normal. It peaks during transitions, when we’re out of our comfort zones. Don’t let it stop you. Confidence follows action.
Rapid Fire Q&A
AW:
Kim, are you an introvert or extrovert?
KM:
Extrovert. I thrive in unscripted situations but have to watch that I don’t wing it too much.
AW:
What’s your communication pet peeve?
KM:
Passive-aggressive comments. I prefer directness and clarity.
AW:
Favorite book or podcast lately?
KM:
Your Brain at Work by Dr. David Rock. It’s practical and neuroscience-based. It’s great for understanding behavior and communication.
Andrea’s Top 3 Takeaways from Kim
- Take risks regularly
Imposter syndrome = fear. Daily risks (personal and professional) build confidence. - Manage meetings effectively
Use the before-during-after framework to ensure all voices are heard. - Frame self-promotion as a service
Share your strengths to help others. Teaching what you know is an act of generosity.
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