Stoa Conversations: Stoicism Applied Wrestling with Stoic Ethics: Cicero's On Ends V (Episode 183)
May 13, 2025
Dive into the philosophical fray as Cicero debates what constitutes a truly good life. Explore his unique Aristotelian-Platonic approach, challenging both Stoicism and Epicureanism. Discover how the interplay of reason, virtue, and external goods shapes our pursuit of happiness. The conversation tackles societal norms around inclusivity, the virtue of character over material success, and the importance of self-knowledge. Engaging insights on how these ancient ideas remain relevant today make for a thought-provoking discussion!
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Philosophical Tour of Athens
- Cicero opens the discussion with a vivid tour of Athens, mentioning Plato, Epicurus, and Sophocles.
- This grounding in place connects cultural history to philosophy, making abstract ideas more tangible.
Nature Includes Body and Mind
- Living according to nature means knowing and perfecting both bodily and mental powers.
- Unlike Stoics, this view values both body and mind as essential to human nature.
Admiration of Virtuous Lives
- We commonly admire virtuous people unconditionally, without adding external goods.
- This admiration supports the Stoic idea that virtue alone defines happiness.