In our first podcast I asked Joel to provide any interventional studies showing harm from red meat, or any unprocessed meat. He was unable to provide these studies at that time, or in the 2 weeks that followed before I released our podcast debate. After that time he wrote a blog post with his thoughts in response to many of the points I raised during the podcast, providing what he believed to be studies corroborating his points. This podcast is a solo-cast in which I respond to his blog post points to show some counter points and point out that I still do not believe his case for plant-based diets is able to be substantiated. I’ve reached out to Joel to see if he will come back on the podcast for a part two, but he has not yet responded. Will keep you posted! #theremembering

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0:10:07 Did Dr. Joel Furhman ever send me those studies that demonstrated red meat has a damaging affect on humans? 0:12:42 Reviewing Dr. Joel Fuhrman's blog post regarding plant foods vs animal foods 0:18:27 Association of animal and plant protein intake with all-cause and cause-specific mortality 0:23:17 Meat intake and cause-specific mortality: a pooled analysis of asian prospective cohort studies 0:24:27 Mortality in british vegetarians 0:28:07 Physical activity patterns and biomarkers of cardiovascular disease risk in hunter-gatherers 0:29:25 Increased lean red meat intake does not elevate markers of oxidative stress and inflammation in humans 0:29:47 Isocaloric diets high in animal or plant protein reduce liver fat and inflammation in individuals with type 2 diabetes 0:30:08 Effects of plant and animal high protein diets on immune-inflammatory biomarkers: a 6-week intervention trial 0:30:37 Changes in Dietary Fat Intake Alter Plasma Levels of Oxidized Low-Density Lipoprotein and Lipoprotein(a) 0:34:47 Cancer incidence in vegetarians: results from the European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition (EPIC-Oxford) 0:37:14 Mortality in vegetarians and comparable nonvegetarians in the United Kingdom 0:38:47 Beef tallow increases apoptosis and decreases aberrant crypt foci formation relative to soybean oil in rat colon 0:41:12 Potential effects of reduced red meat compared with increased fiber intake on glucose metabolism and liver fat content: a randomized and controlled dietary intervention study 0:44:27 Validity of U.S. nutritional surveillance:National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey caloric energy intake data, 1971-2010 0:47:47 Effect of Legumes as Part of a Low Glycemic Index Diet on Glycemic Control and Cardiovascular Risk Factors in Type 2 Diabetes Mellitus - A Randomized Controlled Trial 0:50:37 Bean Consumption Is Associated with Greater Nutrient Intake, Reduced Systolic Blood Pressure, Lower Body Weight, and a Smaller Waist Circumference in Adults: Results from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey 1999-2002 0:57:52 The actions of exogenous leucine on mTOR signalling and amino acid transporters in human myotubes 1:01:37 Low Protein Intake Is Associated with a Major Reduction in IGF-1, Cancer, and Overall Mortality in the 65 and Younger but Not Older Population 1:05:27 Nutrition for the Japanese elderly 1:07:07 The capacity of foodstuffs to induce innate immune activation of human monocytes in vitro is dependent on food content of stimulants of Toll-like receptors 2 and 4 1:12:52 Fish oil attenuates omega-6 polyunsaturated fatty acid-induced dysbiosis and infectious colitis but impairs LPS dephosphorylation activity causing sepsis 1:16:07 Red meat and colon cancer: A review of mechanistic evidence for heme in the context of risk assessment methodology 1:19:32 Red meat enhances the colonic formation of the DNA adduct O6-carboxymethyl guanine: implications for colorectal cancer risk 1:24:07 Assessment of Causal Direction Between Gut Microbiota-Dependent Metabolites and Cardiometabolic Health: A Bidirectional Mendelian Randomization Analysis 1:25:27 Diabetes is Associ