In this episode, I talk with Tom Wall. Tom's distinguished 20-year career has been dedicated to whole life insurance, pitting it against alternatives. His journey began as an award-winning advisor at Northwestern Mutual, and then he transitioned his practice to MassMutual. Over the years, he excelled in prominent home office roles, emerging as a renowned storyteller and product expert at conferences and meetings nationwide. With a Ph.D. in retirement income planning, Tom conducted groundbreaking research on Whole Life as a Fixed Income Alternative under the guidance of industry thought leaders Wade Pfau, Michael Finke, and Stephen Parrish. His commitment to academic rigor, coupled with decades of sales experience, makes him a uniquely credible and inspirational voice in the life insurance arena. Contact our guest: Website: www.tomwalltalks.com Website: www.permissiontospend.com/ Check out our website: www.nextlevelincome.com. Follow us on social media @thenextlevelincomeshow Get a free copy of our book and learn more about our course at: nextleveincome.com