The supply chain disruption from COVID, and the imperialist ambitions of Vladimir Putin have demonstrated, more than ever, the need for nations – or at least neighbouring groups of friendly nations – to be self sufficient in food and energy. Will we find the world returning to a spit between the West, autocracies and developing nations? Can each group survive without the others? Prof Steve Keen tells Phil Dobbie that we will still be reliant on autocratic regimes for mineral resources, and the world really needs to come together to tackle climate change. Even if that’s a pipedream we at last need a plan for how we manage the world’s resources and ensure we have a reliable source of food and energy, without kowtowing to despotic regimes.

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