Seth Rogen and America Ferrera discuss the movie 'Dumb Money' and its portrayal of finance concepts. They question the accuracy of the narrative and talk about the impact on retail traders. The podcast also mentions meme stocks, a movie recommendation, and opinions on Jay Powell and auto workers.
Retail stock trading offers tight bid-ask spreads and low trading fees, benefiting retail traders despite criticisms of payment for order flow.
The portrayal in the movie of the trading freeze during the GameStop phenomenon as collusion between Robinhood and Citadel does not align with the known market structure reasons for the freeze, which were due to clearing house demands for additional safety money.
Deep dives
Payment for order flow and its portrayal in the movie
The movie portrays payment for order flow with a shadowy connotation, reflecting the attitudes of the Reddit crowd during the GameStop phenomenon. While it can be criticized or defended as a system, it's important to note that retail stock trading has never been better in terms of tight bid-ask spreads and low trading fees. Retail traders, though they may have some complaints, still benefit from highly efficient and low-cost trading.
The Robinhood trading freeze and its implications
The movie heavily implies that the trading freeze during the GameStop media was a result of collusion between Robinhood and Citadel. However, the actual reason for the freeze was due to clearing house demands for additional safety money, as the extreme volatility of GameStop required more capital to ensure trades would be made good. The movie's insinuations of shady coordination do not align with the known market structure reasons for the trading freeze.
The revolution narrative and its limitations
The movie portrays the GameStop phenomenon as a revolution of the little guy against the big guy, but this narrative is challenged by the incoherence of the revolution idea. While some retail traders profited from driving up stock prices, many others bought the stocks at unrealistic and incorrect prices. The movie fails to acknowledge how this speculative trading harmed some retail investors. Additionally, it overlooks the fact that company executives took advantage of the situation to sell shares and benefited the most from the stock price increases.
Dumb Money, out this week, stars Seth Rogen, America Ferrera and several very tricky finance moves. We liked Seth and America, but we definitely have questions about the portrayal of clearing houses, order flow, and stock dilution. If you’ve watched Star Wars and wondered how the Millenium Falcon could carry enough fuel to travel at the speed of light, this episode is for you. Also we go long Jay Powell and long auto workers.