Modern Wisdom

#993 - Katie Herzog - A Controversial New Cure for Alcohol Dependence

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Sep 13, 2025
Katie Herzog, a journalist and author of 'Drink Your Way Sober', discusses her groundbreaking approach to alcohol dependence. She reveals how traditional recovery methods often fall short, advocating for the Sinclair method using naltrexone as a revolutionary alternative. The conversation dives into the complexities of alcohol use, the evolution of treatment philosophies, and societal perceptions surrounding sobriety. Herzog highlights the changing dynamics in drinking culture and emphasizes that understanding personal relationships with alcohol is crucial for effective recovery.
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Long Road From Partying To Secret Drinking

  • Katie Herzog describes decades of escalating drinking from middle school to secret solo drinking in her 30s and 40s.
  • She recounts burning her apartment porch and waking up to friends who found it hilarious, illustrating normalized heavy drinking in her social circle.
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Natural Recovery Is The Norm For Many

  • Natural recovery is common: many heavy college drinkers age out without formal treatment.
  • Katie says she hoped to naturally recover but remained stuck in problematic drinking into later adulthood.
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Early Wake-Up Moments Didn't Stick

  • Katie shares early realizations she might be an alcoholic, including a public breakup confrontation at 24.
  • She toggled between denial and attempts at AA, never stringing more than 30 sober days together for years.
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