

120 The FISH Model: Beyond Modern Impasses to Spiritual and Emotional Health (with Dr. Marcus Warner)
4 snips Jul 1, 2025
Dr. Marcus Warner, president of Deeper Walk International and author of 16 books, joins the discussion on the intersection of neuroscience and spiritual growth. He critiques traditional discipleship methods, emphasizing their limitations in fostering emotional health. The conversation introduces the FISH model—freedom, identity, spirit walk, and community—highlighting its potential to transform lives. They also delve into how generational trauma shapes our spiritual journeys and the importance of identity in Christ for true emotional maturity.
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Marcus Warner's Seminary Struggle
- Marcus Warner experienced major spiritual depression during seminary despite extensive theological study.
- Isolation and attachment pain contributed heavily to his crisis beyond intellectual understanding.
Limits of Modern Discipleship
- Western Christianity misplaces transformation on reason, willpower, or spiritual power alone.
- Neglecting attachment aspects limits discipleship and spiritual growth significantly.
Apply the FISH Model
- Embrace the FISH model: Freedom, Identity, Spirit walk, and Heart-focused community.
- Engage these gospel foundations collectively to live mature, transformed Christian lives.