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Masculinity, Work, and the New Fatherhood with Paul Sullivan

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Jun 16, 2025
Paul Sullivan, journalist and founder of The Company of Dads, shares his journey as a primary caregiver championing a new definition of fatherhood. He discusses the rise of lead dads and the challenges they face in a workplace often biased towards traditional gender roles. The conversation dives into the importance of support systems for fathers and how openly communicating about emotional labor can alleviate resentment. Paul emphasizes the need for workplaces to adapt and support diverse family dynamics, advocating for a shift in societal perceptions of masculinity.
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ANECDOTE

Balancing Unexpected Calls

  • Paul Sullivan described a moment juggling a call with a former White House official and an urgent pediatrician call.
  • He hung up the official mid-conversation to take the pediatrician's call, illustrating the realities of lead dads.
INSIGHT

Revealing Hidden Resentment

  • Resentment in relationships often builds from unnoticed, accumulated emotional labor.
  • The "paper test" helps couples uncover and communicate mismatched perceptions of household contributions.
ADVICE

Let Others Own Tasks

  • When assigning household tasks, allow others to own them without micromanagement.
  • Accept different parenting styles as long as children are safe, happy, and engaged.
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