45 | Peter Ratcliffe on being the Master of Daydreams
Nov 13, 2023
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Peter J. Ratcliffe, 2019 Nobel Prize recipient in Physiology or Medicine, discusses the importance of defining your own research question. He shares his groundbreaking work on oxygen sensing in animal cells and the trade-off between planning and discovery. The guest explores the benefits and drawbacks of multiple people in meetings and highlights the unexpected path to major discoveries. They also discuss alternative measures of scientific quality beyond key performance indicators.
Defining your own question is essential for making important discoveries and solving novel problems, even in the face of pressure to follow popular trends.
Balancing planning and embracing the present moment allows for creative idea generation and unexpected breakthroughs.
Deep dives
Find your own question and avoid fashionable fields
The speaker emphasizes the importance of finding one's own question to think about, rather than joining a fashionable field. They argue that joining a fashionable field may lead to high publication rates, but it decreases the chances of making a distinctive impact and solving novel problems. The speaker also mentions that influential figures such as reviewers, mentors, journal editors, and grant-giving agencies often pressure researchers into following popular trends. However, the speaker believes that personal attributes such as being awkward and unwilling to conform to common subjects are crucial for pursuing one's own problem.
The balance between planning and embracing uncertainty
The speaker discusses the importance of planning in certain aspects of scientific work, such as organizing experiments and managing time efficiently. However, they also emphasize that a greater obsession with planning a career or experimental progress can lead to unhappiness and poor performance. They suggest that a longer-term focus on planning does not align well with the intrinsic uncertainties of scientific research. They advocate for a balance between planning and embracing the present moment, acknowledging that ideas can come from unexpected sources and interactions.
Enhancing idea generation through group discussions
The speaker shares their strategy for idea generation, which involves having discussions with a small group of people. They explain that engaging in one-on-one conversations can sometimes feel constrained by social propriety, leading to a continuous flow of conversation that may hinder idea generation. By involving two or three other people in the discussion, the speaker creates an atmosphere where they can partially disengage and have the freedom to daydream or think about other things. They believe that this approach allows for more relaxed and creative idea generation.
The importance of courage and the limitations of performance indicators
The speaker highlights the significance of courage in scientific exploration and problem-solving. They suggest that bravery is required to pursue experiments and ideas, even in the face of uncertainties and potential failures. The speaker also expresses skepticism towards key performance indicators (KPIs), stating that applying KPIs to scientific research can create unnecessary anxiety and hinder the discovery process. They propose that qualities such as passion for science, individual assessments by peers, and tangible outcomes of knowledge creation should be more valued as indicators of scientific success.
Peter J. Ratcliffe shared the 2019 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for his work on oxygen sensing in animal cells. He directs research institutes in London and Oxford. In this episode, he reveals the interplay between dissociation – daydreaming – and interaction with colleagues as a major source of his scientific creativity. He emphasizes that to make an important discovery, you must define your own question, even as everyone – from colleagues to editors and funders – will try to convince you otherwise. We discuss how too much planning can make you unhappy, and how everyone overestimates the information transfer in lectures and presentations.
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