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The Lawfare Podcast

Lawfare Daily: Discussing Recent Disruptions to Undersea Cables with Kevin Frazier

Jan 21, 2025
Kevin Frazier, Lawfare’s Tarbell Fellow in Artificial Intelligence and expert on undersea cables, discusses recent disruptions impacting global connectivity. He highlights significant incidents linked to maritime security, including potential sabotage and their legal implications. The conversation also delves into geopolitical tensions, particularly involving Russia and China’s actions, and the need for international cooperation to safeguard these critical infrastructures. Frazier emphasizes innovative technologies to enhance cable resilience and maintain internet stability.
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  • Recent disruptions to undersea cables raise concerns over possible sabotage, particularly involving non-warring vessels linked to state activities.
  • Legal complexities surrounding undersea cable investigations highlight the need for enhanced international cooperation to ensure effective responses and accountability.

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The Growing Concern of Undersea Cable Sabotage

Recent disruptions to undersea cables have raised significant concerns about possible sabotage. Notably, incidents involving two cables in Sweden's exclusive economic zone reportedly coincided with the activities of a Chinese-flagged vessel, leading to suspicions of deliberate damage. This incident reflects a broader pattern of alleged attack incidents where non-warring ships, like bulk carriers, appear to engage in actions that impact vital communications infrastructure. Given the importance of these cables for internet connectivity, the increasing frequency of these events highlights the need for enhanced monitoring and protective measures.

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