How do you land a big celebrity on your show or podcast? Omar Elattar does it all the time, and in this episode, he shares his secrets with you. Get ready to take notes on the importance of “delusional optimism,” and why you should swing for the fences. Learn about the life-changing philosophy behind “the progress game.” By the end of the episode, Omar even turns things around and interviews Sharran! You won’t want to miss this!