
 PreAccident Investigation Podcast PAPod 434 - The Erik Hollnagel Speaks at the Safety II in Application Conference
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 Mar 4, 2023  AI Snips 
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Hollnagel's Stroke
- Erik Hollnagel recounts suffering a stroke and its impact on his speech.
 - He jokes about the audience taking pictures of slides, regardless of comprehension.
 
Safety's Meaning
- Safety has many definitions, causing confusion about its true meaning.
 - Focus on what should be done (Safety II) rather than what shouldn't (Safety I).
 
Glass Analogy
- Hollnagel uses the analogy of a glass: Safety I empties it of bad things, Safety II fills it with good things.
 - He references Dekker's divorce analogy: Studying failed marriages doesn't explain successful ones.
 
