Theory and ritual artist Scoutleader Wiley talks to Brendan about metamodern magick, a post-postmodern psychotechnology of re-enchantment that utilizes ironic sincerity and informed naivete to (re)connect us with meaning and the Earth. How can we engage with ritual and mythos beyond superstition and gullibility? What ends does ritual accomplish that a purely rational and objective stance to experience cannot? How can laughing at ourselves help us take the sacred seriously?

0:00 Introduction

1:36 A Need for New Rituals: Personal and Communal Meaning-Making

9:05 Magic vs. Magick: Objective vs. Transjective Transformation

15:26 Acausal-Representational Systems (ARS)

18:52 Regenerative Reverence: An "As If" Spirituality

35:09 "Make Coffee Like You Give a Fuck": Creating Ritual and Living Mindfully

44:23 Spiritual Vulnerability and Ironic Sincerity

47:51 Necessary Subversion